Verizon - CDMA - Cellphones... I did come from Motorola after all (and they
used to be the really big wireless company)....

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dr. Fehrer's book from U of San Diego or Robert Winch's one.  Both covered
> this.    Isnt this what AT&T is pushing in commercial about Picocells?
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Oct 25, 2014 2:43 PM, "Chuck Macenski via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Actually...CDMA techniques (PN modulation) re-channel a band based on
>> time rather than frequency. In a multi point environment, this allows
>> multiple people to share a frequency bandwidth in a not terribly
>> inefficient way when all of the simultaneous communication paths are
>> considered.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Chuck McCown via Af <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   Yeah, isochronous pseudorandom noise mod/demod techniques will pull
>>> info from sewer.  I think  the deep  space network uses some of those
>>> techniques.  But PN modulation does not help throughput.  It wastes
>>> bandwidth.
>>>
>>> Speed/interference immunity/narrow channels – pick one.
>>>
>>>  *From:* Bill Prince via Af <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:27 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail
>>>
>>>  The holy grail would be the ability to modulate a signal and receive
>>> it correctly in the face of withering interference.
>>>
>>> The GPS system accomplishes that through the technique of encoding the
>>> data within "pseudo noise".  The only problem being that GPS data is
>>> relatively static compared to what we deal with.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>>
>>> On 10/25/2014 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
>>>
>>>  I think folks without deep experience in either 1) operating a WISP or
>>> 2)without deep experience in electrodynamics and modulation (99.999% of the
>>> general population) somehow think that Moore’s Law applies to wireless.
>>>
>>> The only way to scale this this stuff in a way approximating Moore’s Law
>>> is to just keep adding cell/ap sites.
>>>
>>> I read a book back in 1990 that outlined this problem for the nascent
>>> cell phone industry.  The book is still spot on.
>>>
>>>   *From:* Rory Conaway via Af <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 11:41 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail
>>>
>>>
>>> Or looky, looky, AC PTMP MU-MIMO.  Imagine what that would do for White
>>> Space.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:22 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sterling, thank you! I think you and me must be the only ones who can
>>> see the elephant...... OH LOOKY LOOKY AC PTMP!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it just me, or is no one realizing that we are still not that far
>>> from 2005 with wireless.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, we have 300-1Gbps capable radios.
>>>
>>> But they trade that for larger channel allocations and even more signal
>>> to noise requirements.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But the spectrum allocations haven’t changed enough to use these new
>>> features to their fullest in a radio dense environment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When doing cost analysis in my area last year for wireless I realized I
>>> had to forklift upgrade most of my network, and build towers out in a half
>>> mile range.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This was to get the 30Mbps plan rates to really work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The costs were skyrocketing because of all the towers and sectors.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the real winners of late are still the rural and low density
>>> wireless provider domains.
>>>
>>> They are the ones with clean enough spectrum to cost this competitively.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>> via Af
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 6:41 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bring out the Holy Grenade of Antioch...
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Oct 24, 2014 5:56 PM, "Jayson Baker via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Anyone else get this email?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone know what it is?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
>>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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