I've been doing routed since day 1 (sometime in '05). Scary to think it has been almost a decade.
On Saturday, October 25, 2014, Sterling Jacobson via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > Heeeyyyy, in 2005 we had a very redundant successful layer 2 network. > > I think mainly because the radios had finally implemented filtering and > storm control at the consumer side. > > > > We have about 100 new protocols now it seems like, but basic networking is > still the same since then. > > > > That could use a major simplification and overhaul as well. > > > > I wish the FCC would rework the lower frequency spectrum like white spaces > and open up huge chunks of it. > > > > That would single handedly turn the wireless WISP industry into a very > competitive powerhouse. > > > > It’s not like it doesn’t exist. > > > > There is no way all that spectrum is being constantly used all over the US > all the time. > > I get the feeling most of it is unused most of the time. > > > > Has anyone ever done a semi-comprehensive study of actual raw spectrum > noise/usage across significant bands in major dense areas? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck > McCown via Af > *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:17 AM > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail > > > > Big flat network... instant worm propagation... ahh yes, the good old > days... > > > > *From:* Ken Hohhof via Af <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2014 10:48 AM > > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail > > > > That is like saying the car I drive today isn’t much faster than my first > car in 1969. There is no comparison though when you look at all the > incremental improvements. Hey, that 1969 Camaro had an AM radio and a > heater! > > > > If you think the Internet service you offer today is not much different > than 2005, just a little faster, you need to travel back in time and visit > your 2005 WISP and see all the differences between then and now. I look at > the sub-ms backhauls and redundant rings and 24x7 reliability and > monitoring and quick restoration people expect today because their lives > revolve around connectivity and cloud apps, and it’s a world of > difference. The only thing that has stayed the same is the price we get > away with charging, in fact that has not even kept pace with inflation. > > > > > > *From:* Travis Johnson via Af > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:22 AM > > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail > > > > I agree that the only thing that has changed is speed... but what do you > expect? The PC hasn't changed much in 30 years... just faster... it still > does the same thing it did 30 years ago, just faster. > > Travis > > On 10/24/2014 11:22 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: > > Sterling, thank you! I think you and me must be the only ones who can > see the elephant...... OH LOOKY LOOKY AC PTMP!! > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > Is it just me, or is no one realizing that we are still not that far > from 2005 with wireless. > > > > Yes, we have 300-1Gbps capable radios. > > But they trade that for larger channel allocations and even more signal to > noise requirements. > > > > But the spectrum allocations haven’t changed enough to use these new > features to their fullest in a radio dense environment. > > > > When doing cost analysis in my area last year for wireless I realized I > had to forklift upgrade most of my network, and build towers out in a half > mile range. > > > > This was to get the 30Mbps plan rates to really work. > > > > The costs were skyrocketing because of all the towers and sectors. > > > > I think the real winners of late are still the rural and low density > wireless provider domains. > > They are the ones with clean enough spectrum to cost this competitively. > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of *Jaime > Solorza via Af > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 6:41 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Holy Grail > > > > Bring out the Holy Grenade of Antioch... > > Jaime Solorza > > On Oct 24, 2014 5:56 PM, "Jayson Baker via Af" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > Anyone else get this email? > > > > Anyone know what it is? > > > > > > -- > > All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the > parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you > can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not > use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 > > >
