There might be another wireless provider that could get them hooked up, but I couldn't speculate who. They have a very narrow window through their trees to a tiny section of the valley.

The other option would be running fiber up from the valley. Where they're at, it would be an approximate 15 mile fiber run. How much is that?

bp

On 10/30/2014 12:12 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af wrote:
What are their alternatives Bill?


On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I am using an RB2011 as a VPLS NID to provide 100meg DIA to a
    customer. It works great.

    Matthew Jenkins
    SmarterBroadband
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>

    On 10/29/2014 05:56 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote:

        We do similar and if the customer doesnt have these things at
        the termination point we offer a lease or purchase for the
        extended equipment.
        I still cant get away from Mikrotiks CCR routers instead of
        the latter.

        On 10/29/2014 7:29 PM, Paul Stewart via Af wrote:

            That pricing is similar to what we charge when using
            PTP600 directly back to a fiber fed "hub site".  At the
            customer site, we install an APC 1500 UPS (with SNMP
            management) and a Juniper SRX router - fully managed and
            monitored from NOC.

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Af [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins
            via Af
            Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:00 PM
            To:[email protected] <mailto:to%[email protected]>
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100
            service.

            Base Price:
            1yr Contract: $1980/mo
            2yr Contract: $1870/mo
            3yr Contract: $1760/mo

            We negotiate discounts from those prices. Usually end up
            giving customers 20-30% off to "make a deal". DIA services
            are always negotiable. Sometimes we have to add to them to
            deal with all the upgrades necessary to get to the customer.

            Install depends on required equipment. Airfiber is usually
            not a big deal. Licensed link could be the cost of the
            link spread over term of contract.

            You also have to consider what it takes from your backbone
            to deliver that. How many sites from your upstream is it?
            Do you need to charge enough to cover future upgrades to
            your backhauls, routers, etc? What about upgrades to UPSes
            in the path?

            Just some things to consider.

            Matthew Jenkins
            SmarterBroadband
            [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>

            On 10/29/2014 01:25 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

                No Comcast here.  No AT&T here. Others as well.

                Only real competition at this site would be bonded T1
                lines. Qty 1 T1
                in this location would be ~~ $500 per month.

                There might be another Wireless provider that could
                get through the
                hole in the trees, but the number would be very, very
                limited.

                bp
                On 10/29/2014 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:

                    What are Comcast\TW\AT&T\Zayo\etc. selling 100
                    megs for? That's where
                    you want to sell your 100 megs, assuming you're
                    not losing your ass
                    at that rate.



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                    *From: *"Bill Prince via Af"<[email protected]
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                    *To: *"Motorola III"<[email protected]
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                    *Sent: *Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:57:39 PM
                    *Subject: *[AFMUG] price range for a dedicated
                    100x100 service.

                    We have a new subscriber we're providing dedicated
                    24x24 service
                    right now.

                    He's asked for a quote for dedicated 100x100
                    service.  The link is ~~
                    8.5 miles.  Right now, I'm thinking we need to put
                    in a licensed link.
                    The site is active with 2 PMP450 APs, and I do not
                    want to interfere
                    on a site with relatively tight spectrum demands,
                    so anything in 5.8
                    is out of the question.

                    I don't really need technical advice, but I'm
                    looking for advice on
                    how to price this.  Typically, we charge 30-50 %
                    of the equipment
                    cost and then price the monthly recurring to
                    recover the remaining
                    equipment cost over 12 months.  However, I would
                    like to entertain alternatives.


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                    bp



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