You are the value alternative :-)

I would probably double the bill sign them to a new three year agreement,
and get some some $$ for installation.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Bill Prince via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

>  There might be another wireless provider that could get them hooked up,
> but I couldn't speculate who.  They have a very narrow window through their
> trees to a tiny section of the valley.
>
> The other option would be running fiber up from the valley.  Where they're
> at, it would be an approximate 15 mile fiber run.  How much is that?
>
> bp
>
> On 10/30/2014 12:12 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af wrote:
>
>  What are their alternatives Bill?
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  I am using an RB2011 as a VPLS NID to provide 100meg DIA to a customer.
>> It works great.
>>
>> Matthew Jenkins
>> SmarterBroadband
>> [email protected]
>> 530.272.4000
>>
>> On 10/29/2014 05:56 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote:
>>
>>> We do similar and if the customer doesnt have these things at the
>>> termination point we offer a lease or purchase for the extended equipment.
>>> I still cant get away from Mikrotiks CCR routers instead of the latter.
>>>
>>> On 10/29/2014 7:29 PM, Paul Stewart via Af wrote:
>>>
>>>> That pricing is similar to what we charge when using PTP600 directly
>>>> back to a fiber fed "hub site".  At the customer site, we install an APC
>>>> 1500 UPS (with SNMP management) and a Juniper SRX router - fully managed
>>>> and monitored from NOC.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:00 PM
>>>> To:[email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service.
>>>>
>>>> Base Price:
>>>> 1yr Contract: $1980/mo
>>>> 2yr Contract: $1870/mo
>>>> 3yr Contract: $1760/mo
>>>>
>>>> We negotiate discounts from those prices. Usually end up giving
>>>> customers 20-30% off to "make a deal". DIA services are always negotiable.
>>>> Sometimes we have to add to them to deal with all the upgrades necessary to
>>>> get to the customer.
>>>>
>>>> Install depends on required equipment. Airfiber is usually not a big
>>>> deal. Licensed link could be the cost of the link spread over term of
>>>> contract.
>>>>
>>>> You also have to consider what it takes from your backbone to deliver
>>>> that. How many sites from your upstream is it? Do you need to charge enough
>>>> to cover future upgrades to your backhauls, routers, etc? What about
>>>> upgrades to UPSes in the path?
>>>>
>>>> Just some things to consider.
>>>>
>>>> Matthew Jenkins
>>>> SmarterBroadband
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 530.272.4000
>>>>
>>>> On 10/29/2014 01:25 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No Comcast here.  No AT&T here. Others as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only real competition at this site would be bonded T1 lines. Qty 1 T1
>>>>> in this location would be ~~ $500 per month.
>>>>>
>>>>> There might be another Wireless provider that could get through the
>>>>> hole in the trees, but the number would be very, very limited.
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> On 10/29/2014 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What are Comcast\TW\AT&T\Zayo\etc. selling 100 megs for? That's where
>>>>>> you want to sell your 100 megs, assuming you're not losing your ass
>>>>>> at that rate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligen
>>>>>> t-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> *From: *"Bill Prince via Af"<[email protected]>
>>>>>> *To: *"Motorola III"<[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:57:39 PM
>>>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] price range for a dedicated 100x100 service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a new subscriber we're providing dedicated 24x24 service
>>>>>> right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He's asked for a quote for dedicated 100x100 service.  The link is ~~
>>>>>> 8.5 miles.  Right now, I'm thinking we need to put in a licensed link.
>>>>>> The site is active with 2 PMP450 APs, and I do not want to interfere
>>>>>> on a site with relatively tight spectrum demands, so anything in 5.8
>>>>>> is out of the question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't really need technical advice, but I'm looking for advice on
>>>>>> how to price this.  Typically, we charge 30-50 % of the equipment
>>>>>> cost and then price the monthly recurring to recover the remaining
>>>>>> equipment cost over 12 months.  However, I would like to entertain
>>>>>> alternatives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>
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