Cambium rules in the CYA department. I'm sure that's true, they don't want to deal with FCC problems.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Mathew Howard via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks! so it should be safe to just go with what the interface allows, > as long as the antenna size is set correctly? > ------------------------------ > *From:* Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Sakid Ahmed via Af [ > [email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:22 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules > > Its 20dBm > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard via > Af > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:19 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules > > > > That's very helpful! > > Can someone from Cambium answer what the max transmit power is for ePMP in > 5150-5250? specifically, for two eForce 100 in a point-to-point > configuration. > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Bruce Collins via Af [ > [email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:06 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules > > The short answer is that PTP 650 does support 5.15 GHz. > > > > To access 5.15GHz you will need to be on release 01-21 and then go to the > support website to add 5.1GHz license key (no charge). Because of the > out-of-band emissions requirements there are automatic backoffs in power on > the band edges of the 5.15GHz channels. Below are all the details on the > implementation of 5.15GHz FCC band on the PTP 650. > > > > Let me know if you have further questions. > > Regards, > > Bruce > > > > Product Manager > > Cambium Networks > > > > > > 1. The grant covers the PTP 650, PTP 650S and PTP 650L > > 2. The band is only applicable to FCC radios used in the U.S. and > U.S. territories. > > 3. Existing customers will need to go the license manager page on > the support website to update their license key adding 5.15 GHz (at no > charge) > > 4. The UNII-1 band officially covers 5.15 GHz to 5.25 GHz at a > maximum of 53dBm EIRP and does not required DFS for radar avoidance. > HOWEVER, it does have very stringent out-of-band emissions requirements > which make the maximum EIRP unlikely to be met by any commercial products. > > 5. The out of band emissions requirements and the fact that UNII-1 > band is adjacent to the 5.2GHz band that does require radar avoidance means > that each product approved under UNII-1 will have different capabilities. > LINKPlanner has been updated to take these rules into account if you plan a > link in the UNII-1 band with the PTP 650. > > 6. The PTP 650 supports the following EIRP levels dependent on > channel bandwidth. G stands for the gain of the antenna with maximum > antenna gain of 23dBi. > > a. 5MHz: 33 – G dBm (so for example, with the integrated 23dBm > antenna the max tx power is 33dBm – 23dBi = 10dBm) > > b. 10MHz: 31 – G dBm > > c. 15MHz: 37 – G dBm > > d. 20MHz: 36 – G dBm > > e. 30MHz: 35 – G dBm > > f. 40MHz: 30 – G dBm > > g. 45MHz: 30 – G dBm > > > > 7. Further there are band edge back-offs shown below: > > 8. > > *Channel** Bandwidth* > > *Channel Frequency* > > *Backoff* > > 5 MHz > > Below 5158.0 MHz > > 7 dB > > > > 5158 to 5200 MHz > > 3 dB > > > > Above 5200.0 MHz > > 0 dB > > 10 MHz > > Below 5164.0 MHz > > 8 dB > > > > 5164.0 MHz and above > > 0 dB > > 15 MHz > > Below 5170.0 MHz > > 14 dB > > > > 5170 to 5181 MHz > > 6 dB > > > > Above 5181.0 MHz > > 0 dB > > 20 MHz > > Below 5175.0 MHz > > 13 dB > > > > 5175 to 5187 MHz > > 6 dB > > > > Above 5187.0 MHz > > 0 dB > > 30 MHz > > Below 5187.0 MHz > > 11 dB > > > > 5187 to 5200 MHz > > 5 dB > > > > Above 5208.0 MHz > > 0 dB > > 40 MHz > > Below 5200.0 MHz > > 6 dB > > > > 5200.0 MHz and above > > 0 dB > > 45 MHz > > Below 5205.0 MHz > > 7 dB > > > > 5205.0 MHz and above > > 0 dB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:53 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules > > > > im on 1-21 it only has the option for 5.2 .54 and 5.8 in the GUI, maybe im > missing something > > > > Does anyone have a link to an accurate up to date cheatsheet for the > entire 5ghz band and its subsets? > > > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Mathew Howard via Af <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I'm pretty sure I got an email from Cambium awhile back saying it did... > > yeah, here it is... looks like it needs a license key to enable it. > http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/pressreleases/2014/07/28/cambium-networks-ptp-650-receives-fcc-grant-to-operate-in-5150-to-5250-mhz > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Af [[email protected]] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [ > [email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:36 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules > > crud, 650 doesnt do 5.1, that is disappointing > > > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:34 PM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > > cambium linkplanner is locking it at 36 on ptp > > I havent looked on the ptp650 to see if its locked > > Man i hope somebody can provide some evidence that it can go up to 53, > that would get a pretty big load of my back right now > > > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Mathew Howard via Af <[email protected]> > wrote: > > That's definitely not right... maybe you have numbers from the old > 5150-5250 rules? > > PtMP is 36dBm EIRP, and PtP is 53dBm EIRP - however, because of the OOBE > stuff, I'm not aware of anything that can actually do 53dBm. Ubiquiti stuff > is all limited to 36dBm, ePMP lets me set the Tx power up to 20dBm with the > antenna size set to 30dBi (in PtP mode). > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Af [[email protected]] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [ > [email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:24 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5.1 PMP rules > > Really? My cheetsheet shows much lower EIRPs - 22 on PtP and 16 on PmP!! > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Dan Petermann via Af <[email protected]> > wrote: > > awesome, Thank you > > > On Nov 12, 2014, at 2:58 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > 36dBm PtMP. 53dBm PtP. I assume the SM qualifies as PTP like 5.7. And no > DFS. > > > > On 11/12/2014 3:53 PM, Dan Petermann via Af wrote: > >> Can someone give me a quick list of eirp rules in the 5.1 band for > multipoint? > > > > > > > > -- > > All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the > parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you > can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not > use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 > > > > > > -- > > All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the > parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you > can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not > use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 > > > > > > -- > > All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the > parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you > can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not > use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 > > > > > > -- > > All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the > parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you > can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not > use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >
