If there's a mac-telnet package out there for linux, you kind of have to wonder 
why it isn't already in airOS... and ePMP, for that matter. it seems like it 
would be pretty simple to add and incredibly useful.

________________________________
From: Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

I never really had a need for it. I now no longer have any PMP devices on my 
network.

Now that I deploy any new Mikrotik wireless either, but if you can get to any 
Mikrotik device on that layer 2 segment, you can get to the rest. Router, AP, 
CPE, doesn't matter.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

________________________________
From: "Steve D via Af" <[email protected]>
To: "af" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:01:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

Mike,

You sound like you're trying to excuse it for not being there instead of just 
embracing a good feature that works?  Yes, there are ways around, BUT, the 
Canopy AP-SM proxy *just works*.  No thinking about how to get to that SM is 
required, if you can get to the AP then you can get to the SM - end of story.

-Steve D

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett via Af 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Use the CLI to fix whatever's wrong with accessing the GUI?



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

________________________________
From: "Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:34:41 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

Possibly a little simpler with similar results.  It gets you a CLI on the 
target client.  The proxy is nice because you can run the web gui.

--
bp
<part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com>



On 12/18/2014 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
With Mikrotik you can mac-telnet or mac-winbox to anything on that layer 2 
segment. That sounds more useful than this proxy.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

________________________________
From: "Vlad Sedov via Af" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the internal network 
between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x) which is what makes the proxy so 
smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of having the right IP 
address set in the SM before you can manage it (even when connecting from the 
AP).
We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS mapping a major 
headache..  We don't pre-map SMs before they go out into the field, so with 
ePMPs, I have to create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in the 
closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get into the SM.. Change IP, 
delete ARP, rinse, repeat.

Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I really, really hope it gets 
properly implemented.

Vlad

On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:

How are you doing it with Ubnt?  Can't the same be done with epmp?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, "Mark Radabaugh via Af" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
For our install method proxy access (or some means of remote access to a 
minimally configured CPE) is a must have.  The installers do NOT have to get 
out a computer or otherwise access the device.  Power it up, point it at the 
tower, listen for signal, call the office for a signal quality check and go.   
Everything regarding CPE programming can be done remotely.

This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's and then to the CPE but 
it's not as clean as Canopy.

No way at all that I know of with ePMP.

Mark


On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


Use it all the time.  Between it and installer color code field techs can't 
FUBAR an install.  When our larger networks were vlan'd years ago that made the 
process super safe.

One of the "best features" of the canopy platform in my book.  It annoys me 
working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd something like an IP or 
vlan.

On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Me too.

I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than I have finger to 
count on.


--
bp
<part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com>



On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
No, rather just have it.

On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:

Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a show-stopper to 
not have it.

This brings me to a new post...



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com<http://www.ics-il.com/>

________________________________
From: "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you guys
had Canopy-like SM "click-thru" access, aka LUID proxy. But this is not
the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP of the SM.
Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no.

I'm guessing you need an RF private network like exists on Canopy to
make this work. Please do it.







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