Why do you need to access CPE that aren't directly accessible multiple
times a day?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:06:44 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
But I don’t think he’s talking how a skilled person could MacGyver it,
but rather a session list right there in the GUI with every subscriber
listed by name, and you click on the name and shazzam, you are logged
into that SM.
Like one of many things that pisses me off about my $10K Purewave
basestation is you can see a list of CPE MAC addresses by subscriber
name, but if you want to see any stats or change the config for that
subscriber, you have to find him by his MAC address, not by name. The
expensive piece of crap equipment has all the information to make your
life easy, but no, it acts like a glorified MIB browser. They even
rolled out an NMS that I assumed would add this level of intelligence,
but no.
So yes in a pinch you could probably get there through some MAC telnet
tricks. But with the AP proxy feature, it’s one click and boom. If
you don’t find it useful, fine. Most of us use it multiple times
every day. It’s a cool feature.
*From:* Mathew Howard via Af <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:50 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
If there's a mac-telnet package out there for linux, you kind of have
to wonder why it isn't already in airOS... and ePMP, for that matter.
it seems like it would be pretty simple to add and incredibly useful.
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*From:* Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af
[[email protected]]
*Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:45 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
I never really had a need for it. I now no longer have any PMP devices
on my network.
Now that I deploy any new Mikrotik wireless either, but if you can get
to any Mikrotik device on that layer 2 segment, you can get to the
rest. Router, AP, CPE, doesn't matter.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Steve D via Af" <[email protected]>
*To: *"af" <[email protected]>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:01:01 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Mike,
You sound like you're trying to excuse it for not being there instead
of just embracing a good feature that works? Yes, there are ways
around, BUT, the Canopy AP-SM proxy *just works*. No thinking about
how to get to that SM is required, if you can get to the AP then you
can get to the SM - end of story.
-Steve D
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Use the CLI to fix whatever's wrong with accessing the GUI?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:34:41 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Possibly a little simpler with similar results. It gets you a CLI
on the target client. The proxy is nice because you can run the
web gui.
--
bp
<part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com>
On 12/18/2014 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
With Mikrotik you can mac-telnet or mac-winbox to anything on
that layer 2 segment. That sounds more useful than this proxy.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Vlad Sedov via Af" mailto:[email protected]
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11:55 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the
internal network between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x)
which is what makes the proxy so smooth. With ePMP and UBNT,
you're still at the mercy of having the right IP address set
in the SM before you can manage it (even when connecting from
the AP).
We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS mapping
a major headache.. We don't pre-map SMs before they go out
into the field, so with ePMPs, I have to create a static ARP
entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in the closest Mikrotik
router, and use the Tik proxy to get into the SM.. Change IP,
delete ARP, rinse, repeat.
Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I really,
really hope it gets properly implemented.
Vlad
On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
How are you doing it with Ubnt? Can't the same be done
with epmp?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, "Mark Radabaugh via Af"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
For our install method proxy access (or some means of
remote access to a minimally configured CPE) is a must
have. The installers do NOT have to get out a
computer or otherwise access the device. Power it up,
point it at the tower, listen for signal, call the
office for a signal quality check and go. Everything
regarding CPE programming can be done remotely.
This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's
and then to the CPE but it's not as clean as Canopy.
No way at all that I know of with ePMP.
Mark
On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Use it all the time. Between it and installer
color code field techs can't FUBAR an install.
When our larger networks were vlan'd years ago
that made the process super safe.
One of the "best features" of the canopy platform
in my book. It annoys me working on 802.11 crap
when I see a tech has typo'd something like an IP
or vlan.
On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, "Bill Prince via Af"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Me too.
I don't know how many times I've used it, but
it's more than I have finger to count on.
--
bp
<part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com>
On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber
Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
No, rather just have it.
On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af
wrote:
Rather have it and not need it then
need it and not have it.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike Hammett
via Af" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I used it a couple times on my
Canopy gear, but it was never a
show-stopper to not have it.
This brings me to a new post...
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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*From: *"George Skorup (Cyber
Broadcasting) via Af"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 17,
2014 8:30:14 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy
OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks,
I am disappointed. I thought you guys
had Canopy-like SM "click-thru"
access, aka LUID proxy. But this
is not
the case on 2.3.3. All you give me
is a URL with the IP of the SM.
Informational helpful, yes,
operationally helpful, no.
I'm guessing you need an RF
private network like exists on
Canopy to
make this work. Please do it.
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