Because we install 10, 15, sometimes 20 CPE a day. It's a pain in the ass having to McGiver your way into them every time. Sure we auto-configure a lot of it, but there are still have to get into them to look at signal strength and such during the install or when troubleshooting.
Mark > On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > > Why do you need to access CPE that aren't directly accessible multiple times > a day? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > From: "Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:06:44 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > But I don’t think he’s talking how a skilled person could MacGyver it, but > rather a session list right there in the GUI with every subscriber listed by > name, and you click on the name and shazzam, you are logged into that SM. > > Like one of many things that pisses me off about my $10K Purewave basestation > is you can see a list of CPE MAC addresses by subscriber name, but if you > want to see any stats or change the config for that subscriber, you have to > find him by his MAC address, not by name. The expensive piece of crap > equipment has all the information to make your life easy, but no, it acts > like a glorified MIB browser. They even rolled out an NMS that I assumed > would add this level of intelligence, but no. > > So yes in a pinch you could probably get there through some MAC telnet > tricks. But with the AP proxy feature, it’s one click and boom. If you > don’t find it useful, fine. Most of us use it multiple times every day. > It’s a cool feature. > > > From: Mathew Howard via Af <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:50 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > If there's a mac-telnet package out there for linux, you kind of have to > wonder why it isn't already in airOS... and ePMP, for that matter. it seems > like it would be pretty simple to add and incredibly useful. > > From: Af [[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of > Mike Hammett via Af [[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:45 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > I never really had a need for it. I now no longer have any PMP devices on my > network. > > Now that I deploy any new Mikrotik wireless either, but if you can get to any > Mikrotik device on that layer 2 segment, you can get to the rest. Router, AP, > CPE, doesn't matter. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > From: "Steve D via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > To: "af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:01:01 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > Mike, > > You sound like you're trying to excuse it for not being there instead of just > embracing a good feature that works? Yes, there are ways around, BUT, the > Canopy AP-SM proxy *just works*. No thinking about how to get to that SM is > required, if you can get to the AP then you can get to the SM - end of story. > > -Steve D > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Use the CLI to fix whatever's wrong with accessing the GUI? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > From: "Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:34:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > Possibly a little simpler with similar results. It gets you a CLI on the > target client. The proxy is nice because you can run the web gui. > -- > bp > <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> > > On 12/18/2014 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: > With Mikrotik you can mac-telnet or mac-winbox to anything on that layer 2 > segment. That sounds more useful than this proxy. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > From: "Vlad Sedov via Af" mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11:55 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the internal network > between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x) which is what makes the proxy so > smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of having the right IP > address set in the SM before you can manage it (even when connecting from the > AP). > We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS mapping a major > headache.. We don't pre-map SMs before they go out into the field, so with > ePMPs, I have to create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in the > closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get into the SM.. Change > IP, delete ARP, rinse, repeat. > > Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I really, really hope it > gets properly implemented. > > Vlad > > On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: > How are you doing it with Ubnt? Can't the same be done with epmp? > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, "Mark Radabaugh via Af" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > For our install method proxy access (or some means of remote access to a > minimally configured CPE) is a must have. The installers do NOT have to get > out a computer or otherwise access the device. Power it up, point it at the > tower, listen for signal, call the office for a signal quality check and go. > Everything regarding CPE programming can be done remotely. > > This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's and then to the CPE but > it's not as clean as Canopy. > > No way at all that I know of with ePMP. > > Mark > > > On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Use it all the time. Between it and installer color code field techs can't > FUBAR an install. When our larger networks were vlan'd years ago that made > the process super safe. > One of the "best features" of the canopy platform in my book. It annoys me > working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd something like an IP or > vlan. > On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Me too. > > I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than I have finger to > count on. > > -- > bp > <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> > > On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: > No, rather just have it. > > On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: > Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a show-stopper > to not have it. > > This brings me to a new post... > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > From: "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you guys > had Canopy-like SM "click-thru" access, aka LUID proxy. But this is not > the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP of the SM. > Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no. > > I'm guessing you need an RF private network like exists on Canopy to > make this work. Please do it. > > > > > > > > <http://www.avast.com/> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com <http://www.avast.com/>
