It looks from the APC runtime graph that you should get 4 hours or close with 
the internal battery:
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SU2200XL

You should be able to estimate runtime with different batteries from the 
information on that page or linked from there.


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 3:30 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bigger batteries for Smart UPS

70 watt load.  I'd like to get 4 hours.  280 watt hours.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 20, 2015 4:25 PM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> wrote:

  The 2200 is 48vdc iirc, for a 289 watt load It will be inefficient... Better 
off with a 750xl

  Gino A. Villarini 
  @gvillarini



  On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:


    APC charger is calibrated for AGM, doesn’t flooded require different 
voltages?  Maybe I’m wrong about that.  Certainly take out the internal AGM 
batteries, you don’t want batteries of different chemistry in parallel.  I’ve 
only done it with external AGM, but as far as how you get to the right voltage 
(I forget if 2200 VA is still 24V or that’s the point where they started using 
48V), I don’t think it matters if you put 2 x 12V or 4 x 6V in series to get 
24V.  I’m not sure you’ll find 24 or 48V batteries, the choices are usually 2, 
6 or 12 volt.  Make sure to put a fuse in each series string of batteries.

    From: Josh Luthman 
    Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:50 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bigger batteries for Smart UPS

    Charger but also just an APC with the management.  So far I've got two 
solutions: DC and APC.  I'd rather avoid another model or method to monitor.

    Should I just load up on some decent size wet cell and wire them up?

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Jan 20, 2015 3:32 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

      I don’t have specific numbers for you, but I have observed that family 
gets pretty inefficient if you run it way below rated capacity.  You seem to 
hit a wall as you drop the load, like 200 watts for 4 hours, 100 watts for 4 
hours, 50 watts for 4 hours, no watts for 4 hours.  Especially if you are 
trying to push the runtime out to days.

      Any reason you are using a 2200 VA unit for only 70W?  Instead of, say, a 
700 VA unit?  Wanting the faster charger?


      From: Josh Luthman 
      Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:14 PM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: [AFMUG] Bigger batteries for Smart UPS

      I'm getting a bigger unit - SmartUPS XL 2200 - and I'm looking at 
batteries.  I have an Interstate Batteries and Batteries Plus near me so I'd 
like to go with either of them. 

      This will be indoors.  I'm aiming to get 280 watt hours (70 watts, 4 
hours) of run time.  Is there any idea as to the inefficiency of the whole 
AC/DC/AC/DC process?

      What type of battery would be best?  Should I look for 12/24/48v 
batteries or does it matter (besides having to connect them in series)?


      Josh Luthman
      Office: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373

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