3 types of drug testing:
1)  screen all candidates
2)  make offer with drug test as condition of employment
3)  random testing of employees
There is some controversy about 1 and 3.  Pretty hard to argue with 2.
Here’s an offer of employment conditional on passing a drug test at XYZ 
independent testing lab before your first day.  Go pee in the cup and they will 
contact us saying you pass or fail.
If employees drive on the job or operate machinery, I can understand even 
random testing.  I could also understand if they will be working unsupervised 
in customer houses.
One other consideration, and I’m talking more about hard drugs here than 
alcohol or marijuana.  Most cases of employee theft are driven by drug 
addiction.  You will find things like employees selling your inventory and 
tools to get money.  I remember Doug Clark posting about a bad experience when 
he found out he had hired a junkie as an installer.
From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:08 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

Just way too big of an invasion of privacy.  I do understand why businesses do 
it, just not a fan personally.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote:

  Jason, we didn’t do drug testing and twice had major issues with employees.  
If these people were operating motor vehicles and killed someone, the liability 
would be huge.



  Rory



  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
  Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use



  Preemptive drug testing should not be legal.  But that's another argument...



  On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

  Yeah, it is legal.  Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug 
test panels.



  On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John <[email protected]> wrote:

  Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? 




  On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

    Smoke Free. 

    Jaime Solorza

    On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

      If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. 

      (Yes, you can fire smokers).



      Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company 
property, in company vehicles etc.

      (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.  
You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you 
come into the office).



      They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.  

      Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and 
get to work.







      From: mailto:[email protected] 

      Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM

      To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 

      Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use



      Employee Question:



      How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant 
smart phone usage?



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