Think about the dipshits, bro!
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "That One Guy" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:58:10 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use I dont understand why employers arent allowed to fully define the work environment, in a fair world, if you own a business and take the financial risk you would be able to make all your own decisions. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote: 3 types of drug testing: 1) screen all candidates 2) make offer with drug test as condition of employment 3) random testing of employees There is some controversy about 1 and 3. Pretty hard to argue with 2. Here’s an offer of employment conditional on passing a drug test at XYZ independent testing lab before your first day. Go pee in the cup and they will contact us saying you pass or fail. If employees drive on the job or operate machinery, I can understand even random testing. I could also understand if they will be working unsupervised in customer houses. One other consideration, and I’m talking more about hard drugs here than alcohol or marijuana. Most cases of employee theft are driven by drug addiction. You will find things like employees selling your inventory and tools to get money. I remember Doug Clark posting about a bad experience when he found out he had hired a junkie as an installer. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Just way too big of an invasion of privacy. I do understand why businesses do it, just not a fan personally. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Rory Conaway < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Jason, we didn’t do drug testing and twice had major issues with employees. If these people were operating motor vehicles and killed someone, the liability would be huge. Rory From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Preemptive drug testing should not be legal. But that's another argument... On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy < [email protected] > wrote: Yeah, it is legal. Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug test panels. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John < [email protected] > wrote: Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: <blockquote> Smoke Free. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net ICI What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited. </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
