So what happens when ARIN requires customer names and addresses on their IP 
justification forms? I ask because they are actually requiring this - which 
blows my mind.

On March 19, 2015 10:31:32 AM AKDT, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>doesn't have to be their *real* name.  You can use an ID number.
>...though I have seen TONS of them where the ISP put the actual 
>subscriber's name as the site name.
>
>On 3/19/2015 2:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Is there name there?
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:25 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"
>> Yet we put their lat/lon, street address and site name in a public 
>> database if we use 3650 MHz.  Who makes us do that again?
>> *From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 1:15 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"
>> It is stored information.  So primarily database files.  I don’t
>think 
>> email counts. They did say SSH qualifies.
>> *From:* That One Guy <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:11 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"
>> If we use powercode, that database in encrypted as far as I know.
>What 
>> bout email communication with a customer?
>> Is WISPA going to put out some clarification for us as far as what 
>> exact requirements would be on our shoulders?
>> And this exemption, for tiny bastards like the company I work for, 
>> will that carry over? I like exemptions to shit.
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     I was at a seminar yesterday about this.  FCC is proud of some
>>     huge fines the put on one large company for not encrypting
>>     customer info.  It was negotiated down to a paltry $10m...
>>     *From:* Mark Radabaugh <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:54 AM
>>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"
>>     We get stuck with all of the CPNI requirements.   No more helping
>>     out the kid with his router - the account owner MUST be found! 
>>     And verify everything with the super secret password.     Ok - so
>>     I exaggerate, but this is going to make things more difficult.
>>
>>     I'm not sure what exactly the point of 'encrypt all customer
>data'
>>     is given that the front end is still going to be a web interface
>>     that happily decrypts every bit of data and displays it in plain
>>     text. Never let logic get in the way of a bureaucrat implementing
>>     a politicians talking points.
>>
>>     Mark
>>
>>     On 3/19/15 1:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>     I thought the exemption was only for the enhanced transparency
>>>     requirements, not any of the rest of it.
>>>     *From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:47 PM
>>>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"
>>>     I have read the whole thing FCC rule.  We all get ROW access, we
>>>     can only do traffic shaping if we are doing it for technical
>>>     reasons and not discriminating (we can discriminate, but it has
>>>     to be all streaming or all browsing or all of one certain type 
>>>     of traffic).  And we must, must, must encrypt all customer info.
>>>     Not just keep it on an internal network, but any spreadsheet you
>>>     have with customer identifying information must be encrypted.  I
>>>     am not seeing a big impact for WISPS.  And you are all exempt
>>>     until December 15th too if you have less than 100,000
>subscribers.
>>>     *From:* Jason McKemie <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:43 AM
>>>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     *Subject:* [AFMUG] Consumer Blogs on "Net Neutrality"
>>>     Engadget just posted this commentary:
>>>     http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/19/verizon-net-neutrality/
>>>     Not one sided at all, eh?
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Mark Radabaugh
>>     Amplex
>>
>>     [email protected]  <mailto:[email protected]>   419.837.5015 x 1021 
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>>
>>
>>
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