UBNTs new cameras are really nice quality in both materials and picture. They 
also now include the IR. Maybe just replace the ones you need IR on and 
repurpose those old ones?

Also, UBNT just came out with the app for iphone to be able to view them 
remotely. I'm in the process of replacing all of my cameras with their new 
ones. It's a challenge to get Streakwave to get enough stock though. I bought a 
couple and they were the last ones I've seen them have in stock for a few 
months now. There are plenty on eBay for a little bit more money though.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Apr 6, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I have that now and the quality is crappy plus no IR at night. 
>  
> From: Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:55 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
>  
> All at one building?  I guess another option would be analog cameras and a 
> central DVR.  I wonder when POE cameras will get cheap enough to make analog 
> security cameras obsolete?
>  
> From: Chuck McCown
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 11:43 AM
> To: Animal Farm
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
>  
> Probably 12-16 cameras. 
>  
> From: Jaime Solorza
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:32 AM
> To: Animal Farm
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
>  
> Look at the Hikvision Turbo cameras  HD and low cost.  I can get u good 
> prices on these
>   Dvr as well.  How many cameras?
> 
> Jaime Solorza
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2015 10:26 AM, "[email protected]" 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Take a look at Grandstream. They have a CHEAP DVR (<$200) you just have to 
>> add drives. I think their night time quality is better than HIK and are in 
>> the same price range.
>>  
>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I am NOT a camera expert, but I have concluded that PTZ will almost never 
>>> be worth the trouble and cost.  Those Axis PTZ cameras are budget busters.
>>>  
>>> It seems cheaper and easier to put in multiple cameras, or to use a high 
>>> res camera with “digital” PTZ, i.e. the ability to zoom in on a portion of 
>>> the image without actually changing the camera orientation.
>>>  
>>> Also it seems the manufacturers are coming out with more varifocal lens 
>>> options that you can set up to cover exactly the area you want rather than 
>>> just putting in a wide angle and hoping for the best.  For example
>>> http://www.balticnetworks.com/grandstream-outdoor-day-night-ip-camera-gxv3674-fhd-vf.html
>>>  
>>> The other thing about mechanical PTZ, you can’t use it after the fact.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Chuck McCown
>>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 11:00 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
>>>  
>>> Once again, I am searching for good surveillance and monitoring cameras and 
>>> system.  What I have is pretty poor quality. 
>>> I have used axis before and they are good.  Like a low cost DVR type of 
>>> thing though.  Are there any decent open source DVRS etc etc.
>>> Outdoors we want IR.  Like to have PTZ on some of the stuff. 

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