I just order the Grandstream NVR.  Hopefully I can get into it remotely.  

From: Brett A Mansfield 
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 11:09 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again

UBNTs new cameras are really nice quality in both materials and picture. They 
also now include the IR. Maybe just replace the ones you need IR on and 
repurpose those old ones?

Also, UBNT just came out with the app for iphone to be able to view them 
remotely. I'm in the process of replacing all of my cameras with their new 
ones. It's a challenge to get Streakwave to get enough stock though. I bought a 
couple and they were the last ones I've seen them have in stock for a few 
months now. There are plenty on eBay for a little bit more money though.

Thank you, 
Brett A Mansfield

On Apr 6, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:


  I have that now and the quality is crappy plus no IR at night.  

  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:55 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again

  All at one building?  I guess another option would be analog cameras and a 
central DVR.  I wonder when POE cameras will get cheap enough to make analog 
security cameras obsolete?

  From: Chuck McCown 
  Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 11:43 AM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again

  Probably 12-16 cameras.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:32 AM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again

  Look at the Hikvision Turbo cameras  HD and low cost.  I can get u good 
prices on these
    Dvr as well.  How many cameras? 

  Jaime Solorza

  On Apr 6, 2015 10:26 AM, "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

    Take a look at Grandstream. They have a CHEAP DVR (<$200) you just have to 
add drives. I think their night time quality is better than HIK and are in the 
same price range.

    On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

      I am NOT a camera expert, but I have concluded that PTZ will almost never 
be worth the trouble and cost.  Those Axis PTZ cameras are budget busters.

      It seems cheaper and easier to put in multiple cameras, or to use a high 
res camera with “digital” PTZ, i.e. the ability to zoom in on a portion of the 
image without actually changing the camera orientation.

      Also it seems the manufacturers are coming out with more varifocal lens 
options that you can set up to cover exactly the area you want rather than just 
putting in a wide angle and hoping for the best.  For example
      
http://www.balticnetworks.com/grandstream-outdoor-day-night-ip-camera-gxv3674-fhd-vf.html

      The other thing about mechanical PTZ, you can’t use it after the fact.


      From: Chuck McCown 
      Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 11:00 AM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again

      Once again, I am searching for good surveillance and monitoring cameras 
and system.  What I have is pretty poor quality.  
      I have used axis before and they are good.  Like a low cost DVR type of 
thing though.  Are there any decent open source DVRS etc etc.
      Outdoors we want IR.  Like to have PTZ on some of the stuff.  

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