Our big $700 generator sits in the shop because it's a pain in the rear to move.

The Honda ends up getting used for pretty much everything. One of those cases it's worth the extra money.

Mark


On 4/9/15 11:26 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
That's what it looks like my only good option is at this point. It's just silly that we spent $700 on a big 4kw 5 gallon gas generator and now we have to spend $1000 on a small <12 hour portable generator. I don't care if it's quiet - I just need to be able to carry it!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    with its purpose being what it is (keeping the sites up and the
    money flowing) is cheap seating a generator the best course of
    action? Over the expected lifetime of the generator whats its
    actual cost going to work out to, 1k for a generator that will
    easily last 10 years is 100 bucks a year for an assurance that
    your generator will start like it should, run like it should, and
    not damage your equipment.
    Plus, if you need something to power your TV and Xbox while out in
    the middle of nowhere, you wont regret a choice in the better genny

    On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:43 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Right. Some cheap stuff will complain about voltage. Other,
        more expensive stuff, will complain about the waveform too. So
        get a good inverter generator and not worry about it.

        On 4/8/2015 10:36 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
        I think he was saying that both the voltage and the frequency
        are stable with a quality inverter design.  Easier to do with
        a good inverter than an AC generator.
        bp
        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

        On 4/8/2015 7:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

        Sine wave would be 60 hz. Not the voltage.

        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Apr 8, 2015 10:35 PM, "George Skorup (Cyber
        Broadcasting)" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I want to say the Honda's and Yamaha's use a pure since
            wave inverter. Our Yamaha is definitely stable, ~120-122
            volts solid. Even UPS's set to high sensitivity don't
            complain. It is worth the extra couple hundred $ for a
            good inverter generator.

            On 4/8/2015 9:13 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

            The difference between an inverter and a non inverter
            generator is that the non inverter models typically use
            an ac generator which directly produces ac power. This
            requires the motor to be running at the correct rpm to
            get the proper ac frequency. In addition, they tend to
            be susceptible to sags and surges because the motor
            itself has to be throttled up or down based on load.

            The inverter units usually use a dc generator tied to
            an ac inverter.  This solves the problems described
            above but then you're at the mercy of the quality of
            the inverter, which can vary greatly.

            On Apr 8, 2015 6:40 PM, "Josh Luthman"
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                So for example this:
                
http://www.autozone.com/power-tools/portable-generator/power-pro-1000-watt-generator-no-return-on-used-generator-/290845_0_0/

It has a 120v outlet but doesn't have an inverter. How is that possible?

                This is $320 and says inverter:
                
http://www.autozone.com/power-tools/portable-generator/generac-portable-inverter-generator/568401_0_0/

                The big ones I have definitely work on the big APCs
                (1500-2200va). I bought them in 2008? so I don't
                have the specs anymore.

                The site's I'd be most likely to use it would be
                going into a Meanwell rectifier.


                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373

                On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Glen Waldrop
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    I'm not sure how picky your hardware is, but
                    most inverters and generators don't put out a
                    full sine wave. Battery backups tend to trip
                    constantly, but my equipment seems to handle it
                    fine.
                    Full sine wave generators tend to cost a little
                    bit more.

                        ----- Original Message -----
                        *From:* Josh Luthman
                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                        *Sent:* Wednesday, April 08, 2015 7:21 PM
                        *Subject:* [AFMUG] Smaller generators with
                        inverters

                        Can anyone share what kind of generators
                        they're using?  I'm looking for something
                        that's smaller for one person to carry.  I
                        don't need anything big, maybe 250 watt
                        load at the most.  Looking online I see
                        $600 minimum. I'd be using this at smaller
                        sites that don't already have a big 24 hour
                        generator already so portability would be
                        the most important feature.

                        Josh Luthman
                        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                        1100 Wayne St
                        Suite 1337
                        Troy, OH 45373








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