I think he was saying that both the voltage and the frequency are stable with a quality inverter design. Easier to do with a good inverter than an AC generator.

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On 4/8/2015 7:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Sine wave would be 60 hz.  Not the voltage.

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On Apr 8, 2015 10:35 PM, "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I want to say the Honda's and Yamaha's use a pure since wave
    inverter. Our Yamaha is definitely stable, ~120-122 volts solid.
    Even UPS's set to high sensitivity don't complain. It is worth the
    extra couple hundred $ for a good inverter generator.

    On 4/8/2015 9:13 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

    The difference between an inverter and a non inverter generator
    is that the non inverter models typically use an ac generator
    which directly produces ac power.  This requires the motor to be
    running at the correct rpm to get the proper ac frequency.  In
    addition, they tend to be susceptible to sags and surges because
    the motor itself has to be throttled up or down based on load.

    The inverter units usually use a dc generator tied to an ac
    inverter.  This solves the problems described above but then
    you're at the mercy of the quality of the inverter, which can
    vary greatly.

    On Apr 8, 2015 6:40 PM, "Josh Luthman"
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        So for example this:
        
http://www.autozone.com/power-tools/portable-generator/power-pro-1000-watt-generator-no-return-on-used-generator-/290845_0_0/

        It has a 120v outlet but doesn't have an inverter.  How is
        that possible?

        This is $320 and says inverter:
        
http://www.autozone.com/power-tools/portable-generator/generac-portable-inverter-generator/568401_0_0/

        The big ones I have definitely work on the big APCs
        (1500-2200va).  I bought them in 2008? so I don't have the
        specs anymore.

        The site's I'd be most likely to use it would be going into a
        Meanwell rectifier.


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        On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Glen Waldrop
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I'm not sure how picky your hardware is, but most
            inverters and generators don't put out a full sine wave.
            Battery backups tend to trip constantly, but my equipment
            seems to handle it fine.
            Full sine wave generators tend to cost a little bit more.

                ----- Original Message -----
                *From:* Josh Luthman
                <mailto:[email protected]>
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Sent:* Wednesday, April 08, 2015 7:21 PM
                *Subject:* [AFMUG] Smaller generators with inverters

                Can anyone share what kind of generators they're
                using?  I'm looking for something that's smaller for
                one person to carry.  I don't need anything big,
                maybe 250 watt load at the most.  Looking online I
                see $600 minimum.  I'd be using this at smaller sites
                that don't already have a big 24 hour generator
                already so portability would be the most important
                feature.

                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373




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