with its purpose being what it is (keeping the sites up and the money
flowing) is cheap seating a generator the best course of action? Over the
expected lifetime of the generator whats its actual cost going to work out
to, 1k for a generator that will easily last 10 years is 100 bucks a year
for an assurance that your generator will start like it should, run like it
should, and not damage your equipment.
Plus, if you need something to power your TV and Xbox while out in the
middle of nowhere, you wont regret a choice in the better genny

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:43 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Right. Some cheap stuff will complain about voltage. Other, more
> expensive stuff, will complain about the waveform too. So get a good
> inverter generator and not worry about it.
>
> On 4/8/2015 10:36 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> I think he was saying that both the voltage and the frequency are stable
> with a quality inverter design.  Easier to do with a good inverter than an
> AC generator.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 4/8/2015 7:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Sine wave would be 60 hz.  Not the voltage.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Apr 8, 2015 10:35 PM, "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  I want to say the Honda's and Yamaha's use a pure since wave inverter.
>> Our Yamaha is definitely stable, ~120-122 volts solid. Even UPS's set to
>> high sensitivity don't complain. It is worth the extra couple hundred $ for
>> a good inverter generator.
>>
>> On 4/8/2015 9:13 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>
>> The difference between an inverter and a non inverter generator is that
>> the non inverter models typically use an ac generator which directly
>> produces ac power.  This requires the motor to be running at the correct
>> rpm to get the proper ac frequency.  In addition, they tend to be
>> susceptible to sags and surges because the motor itself has to be throttled
>> up or down based on load.
>>
>> The inverter units usually use a dc generator tied to an ac inverter.
>> This solves the problems described above but then you're at the mercy of
>> the quality of the inverter, which can vary greatly.
>>  On Apr 8, 2015 6:40 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So for example this:
>>>
>>> http://www.autozone.com/power-tools/portable-generator/power-pro-1000-watt-generator-no-return-on-used-generator-/290845_0_0/
>>>
>>>  It has a 120v outlet but doesn't have an inverter.  How is that
>>> possible?
>>>
>>>  This is $320 and says inverter:
>>>
>>> http://www.autozone.com/power-tools/portable-generator/generac-portable-inverter-generator/568401_0_0/
>>>
>>>  The big ones I have definitely work on the big APCs (1500-2200va).  I
>>> bought them in 2008? so I don't have the specs anymore.
>>>
>>>  The site's I'd be most likely to use it would be going into a Meanwell
>>> rectifier.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I'm not sure how picky your hardware is, but most inverters and
>>>> generators don't put out a full sine wave. Battery backups tend to trip
>>>> constantly, but my equipment seems to handle it fine.
>>>>
>>>> Full sine wave generators tend to cost a little bit more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 08, 2015 7:21 PM
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Smaller generators with inverters
>>>>
>>>>  Can anyone share what kind of generators they're using?  I'm looking
>>>> for something that's smaller for one person to carry.  I don't need
>>>> anything big, maybe 250 watt load at the most.  Looking online I see $600
>>>> minimum.  I'd be using this at smaller sites that don't already have a big
>>>> 24 hour generator already so portability would be the most important
>>>> feature.
>>>>
>>>>  Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


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