Simon,
I was talking to Dave Taht and the NTOP team awhile back (going back and
forth between to two) about the possibility of integrated a fq_codel
type of QOS along with PF_RING. Long story short, NTOP was interested in
adding some hooks into a custom version of netfilter + PF_RING for me.
You might talk to them.
Since the ntop_ng engine is just a variant of the IPOQUE PACE engine,
which is now being used by intel in certain scenarios, I imagine it
could be used for some massive increases in signature detection and
packet forwarding performance.
NTOP (the company's) pricing on custom development was very reasonable.
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 04/22/2015 09:19 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
That's about it, but two companies in that space selling complete
Linux networking stacks are 6WIND and Wind River, I've investigated
them both pretty extensively. It'd be fun to play with one day. Go
look into the Intel DPDK. The problem is you have to build each
application to support it, so I really doubt there's going to be much
useful open source development in this space, as everything has to be
tailored to exactly what you want it to do. And it is really
expensive. I am pretty sure I had to sign an NDA with both 6WIND and
Wind River, so I won't throw specific numbers out, but it's definitely
not pocket change.
I really wanted to do some stuff with it for the Powercode BMU, but I
don't really have the skill set (or the time right now) to work on it.
You're right though, it's very interesting.
On 04/22/2015 12:06 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Sandvine looks to have similar specs on their platforms as well.
Anyways, that would be really surprising to me Simon. I didn't expect
a multi-generational leap in performance until more things used
PF_RING from ntop, or things like netmap gain in development and
popularity. I know 6WIND does similar things with kernel bypass,
pushing the stack into user space, but AFAIK there are only about 4
or 5 companies with any sort of kernel bypass capability of the
network stack.
If you have any additional information, please do share. This is a
fascinating topic I've been monitoring since around 2011.
On April 22, 2015 8:54:37 AM AKDT, Simon Westlake
<[email protected]> wrote:
600Gbps in software is actually not unreasonable nowadays either,
if you're using something like DPDK. Go look at companies like
6WIND, they claim on an Intel Xeon CPU, being able to do in
excess of 5 million PPS on a single core. Apparently scales as
far as you can go. Granted, there's a lot of development work to
use DPDK, but it's allegedly possible.
I think most of the Procera stuff is actually done in software, I
don't think they have any dedicated ASICs, it's all Intel
hardware. They probably use DPDK.
On 04/22/2015 10:37 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
I think you're thinking about Saisei or whatever.
Procera is done in hardware :) they also can stack their
management in distributed deployments.
On April 22, 2015 7:32:22 AM AKDT, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
wrote:
Looks like I was wrong, they have some pretty big boxes.
600 Gbps and still all in software?
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]>
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I was gonna say...isn't that kinda their market?
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Paul Stewart
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
“I’m not sure Procera has a box for the really big
carriers like Comcast, AT&T, Verizon. I assume Google
Fiber will design and build their own, unless they
totally believe in throwing bandwidth at the problem.”
http://www.proceranetworks.com/products/pl20000
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