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On 04/22/2015 12:27 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>I don't really have the skill set
That's terrifying. What kind of mad scientist would you need to be to
work with it?!
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Simon Westlake <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
That's about it, but two companies in that space selling complete
Linux networking stacks are 6WIND and Wind River, I've
investigated them both pretty extensively. It'd be fun to play
with one day. Go look into the Intel DPDK. The problem is you have
to build each application to support it, so I really doubt there's
going to be much useful open source development in this space, as
everything has to be tailored to exactly what you want it to do.
And it is really expensive. I am pretty sure I had to sign an NDA
with both 6WIND and Wind River, so I won't throw specific numbers
out, but it's definitely not pocket change.
I really wanted to do some stuff with it for the Powercode BMU,
but I don't really have the skill set (or the time right now) to
work on it. You're right though, it's very interesting.
On 04/22/2015 12:06 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Sandvine looks to have similar specs on their platforms as well.
Anyways, that would be really surprising to me Simon. I didn't
expect a multi-generational leap in performance until more things
used PF_RING from ntop, or things like netmap gain in development
and popularity. I know 6WIND does similar things with kernel
bypass, pushing the stack into user space, but AFAIK there are
only about 4 or 5 companies with any sort of kernel bypass
capability of the network stack.
If you have any additional information, please do share. This is
a fascinating topic I've been monitoring since around 2011.
On April 22, 2015 8:54:37 AM AKDT, Simon Westlake
<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
600Gbps in software is actually not unreasonable nowadays
either, if you're using something like DPDK. Go look at
companies like 6WIND, they claim on an Intel Xeon CPU, being
able to do in excess of 5 million PPS on a single core.
Apparently scales as far as you can go. Granted, there's a
lot of development work to use DPDK, but it's allegedly possible.
I think most of the Procera stuff is actually done in
software, I don't think they have any dedicated ASICs, it's
all Intel hardware. They probably use DPDK.
On 04/22/2015 10:37 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
I think you're thinking about Saisei or whatever.
Procera is done in hardware :) they also can stack their
management in distributed deployments.
On April 22, 2015 7:32:22 AM AKDT, Ken Hohhof
<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Looks like I was wrong, they have some pretty big boxes.
600 Gbps and still all in software?
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]>
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera sold for $240M
I was gonna say...isn't that kinda their market?
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Paul Stewart
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
“I’m not sure Procera has a box for the really big
carriers like Comcast, AT&T, Verizon. I assume
Google Fiber will design and build their own, unless
they totally believe in throwing bandwidth at the
problem.”
http://www.proceranetworks.com/products/pl20000
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