>I don't really have the skill set

That's terrifying.  What kind of mad scientist would you need to be to work
with it?!


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On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Simon Westlake <[email protected]> wrote:

>  That's about it, but two companies in that space selling complete Linux
> networking stacks are 6WIND and Wind River, I've investigated them both
> pretty extensively. It'd be fun to play with one day. Go look into the
> Intel DPDK. The problem is you have to build each application to support
> it, so I really doubt there's going to be much useful open source
> development in this space, as everything has to be tailored to exactly what
> you want it to do. And it is really expensive. I am pretty sure I had to
> sign an NDA with both 6WIND and Wind River, so I won't throw specific
> numbers out, but it's definitely not pocket change.
>
> I really wanted to do some stuff with it for the Powercode BMU, but I
> don't really have the skill set (or the time right now) to work on it.
> You're right though, it's very interesting.
>
> On 04/22/2015 12:06 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> Sandvine looks to have similar specs on their platforms as well.
>
> Anyways, that would be really surprising to me Simon. I didn't expect a
> multi-generational leap in performance until more things used PF_RING from
> ntop, or things like netmap gain in development and popularity. I know
> 6WIND does similar things with kernel bypass, pushing the stack into user
> space, but AFAIK there are only about 4 or 5 companies with any sort of
> kernel bypass capability of the network stack.
>
> If you have any additional information, please do share. This is a
> fascinating topic I've been monitoring since around 2011.
>
> On April 22, 2015 8:54:37 AM AKDT, Simon Westlake <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 600Gbps in software is actually not unreasonable nowadays either, if
>> you're using something like DPDK. Go look at companies like 6WIND, they
>> claim on an Intel Xeon CPU, being able to do in excess of 5 million PPS on
>> a single core. Apparently scales as far as you can go. Granted, there's a
>> lot of development work to use DPDK, but it's allegedly possible.
>>
>> I think most of the Procera stuff is actually done in software, I don't
>> think they have any dedicated ASICs, it's all Intel hardware. They probably
>> use DPDK.
>>
>> On 04/22/2015 10:37 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> I think you're thinking about Saisei or whatever.
>>
>> Procera is done in hardware :) they also can stack their management in
>> distributed deployments.
>>
>> On April 22, 2015 7:32:22 AM AKDT, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Looks like I was wrong, they have some pretty big boxes.
>>>
>>> 600 Gbps and still all in software?
>>>
>>>  *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:07 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera sold for $240M
>>>
>>>  I was gonna say...isn't that kinda their market?
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Paul Stewart <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  ā€œI’m not sure Procera has a box for the really big carriers like
>>>> Comcast, AT&T, Verizon.  I assume Google Fiber will design and build their
>>>> own, unless they totally believe in throwing bandwidth at the problem.ā€
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.proceranetworks.com/products/pl20000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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