I would not expect you to cover water damage under warranty.

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:23 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] APC-DIN Mount

I'm about ready to specifically exclude water damage from what we will honor a 
warranty on.   Lightning I want to see because it is useful to see the failure 
mode so I can improve lightning resistance in successive versions.

Not much I can do design wise to prevent water related corrosion.  It's pretty 
obvious when water causes the damage.  My favorite one was the syncinjector 
which came back with water rings on the inside and outside of the case where 
you could see that the bottom of the unit has been underwater several times.  
Obviously had been in the bottom of a enclosure which filled with water 
numerous times.

My recommendation is going to be to cut a hole in the bottom of the drip loop 
to permit the water to drain out.  Several customers I've talked to are doing 
that with great success.

On May 10, 2015 8:22 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

  Maybe strip back the cable a bunch so the water has a chance to escape.  Or 
make a ring cut on the jacket where the cable is at a low point.

  From: Mike Hammett 
  Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 8:20 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] APC-DIN Mount

  A drip loop doesn't help when the water is on the inside. You've got however 
high up it is to the nick in the cable's worth of head pressure. Could have 
been poor installation, could be birds, squirrels, etc. If you get water in, 
it'll come out the end.

  I've met up to three squirrels on the way up the grain leg. That's always a 
pleasant feeling when you're ascending and you find a little brown fluffy 
critter....  and then another...  and then another.




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  From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 9:14:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] APC-DIN Mount


  We just buy APC PRM4s and put a nice metal din rail mount on the back.  It is 
screwed on.  You could un screw it and mount it elsewhere.  

  I presume you have good drip loops that keep water from following the cables 
to the surge suppressors.  

  From: Mike Hammett 
  Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 7:45 AM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: [AFMUG] APC-DIN Mount

  It's hard to tell from the picture. Must the chassis be mounted to the DIN 
rail via the back of the chassis or can the mount be relocated to the 
top\bottom? I assume it can't be moved, but I'd like to mount it so that the 
ports of the surge suppressors are pointing down. Should any water enter the 
cable, gravity would take it back out of the connector, down the side of the 
cable instead out the back of the connector, down onto the next surge 
suppressor below it. I could just put a DIN rail at the top of the box, but 
just wondering if I could just use the same rail I'm using for everything else.

  No, it's not green cable and there shouldn't be any wear points, so I'm not 
really sure how it's getting in.




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