Yeah, but it will require the faith of a mustard seed. Physics is notoriously difficult to to bend to your will.
From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I've heard this argument before. I respond the same way every time. Where there is a will, there is a way. We just haven't found it yet. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Colin Stanners <[email protected]> wrote: 60 or 240ghz multipoint, with the massive signal loss due to not using directional antennas, would have a reliable range of say 300ft? May be more reasonable to string fiber, heck cat6 in most cases. On May 29, 2015 5:49 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]> wrote: 60 and 240GHz can make wireless in urban areas actually be able to compete with cable and maybe even fiber. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Brett A Mansfield <[email protected]> wrote: Id stay ahead of the curve. There is a LOT of spectrum out there going unused. For example, 60GHz and 240GHz. Yes they cannot go very far, but it seems none of the other high frequency stuff can either. And these are very high capacity. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: Maybe you can explain what you would do different than all the other manufacturers that would solve the problem. Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution You don't need a lot of money to start manufacturing. You just need to know the right people. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Jason McKemie <[email protected]> wrote: I hope you have a lot more money than most people here... On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Brett A Mansfield <[email protected]> wrote: Yep, it sure does seem that way. I'm trying to think outside of the box, but every time I do I get back to the same place. Nothing I can do this with is on the market yet or never will be. I'm getting more and more tempted every day to start manufacturing my own stuff. I've already started looking into that. Anything you guys would like to see come to market? If I go into manufacturing I'm going to be all in. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: You need a different strategy. Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution You're very right about the 24GHz. I know several companies are working on something in 60GHz which would be ideal because it's not a very large area and can be daisy chained into a ring. 80GHz would be fine, but like you said nothing seems to exist. These CCS devices look great and might be exactly what I'm looking for. I just hope the price is right. They are 26 and 28GHz. But I think Vivint has a bit of a monopoly in my area with all of their 28GHz radios all over the place. I'm afraid the noise would be too much, even with the narrow beams. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: I'm pretty sure the FCC doesn't allow PtMP in 24ghz. I don't know if anything exists for PtMP in 80ghz... or maybe 60ghz? It seems like the only real option here is 28ghz. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: You can buy spectrum in 28GHz and use Cambridge like Vivato does or depending on how many clients and range you are talking about, maybe something in 24 or 80GHz. Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution You know that's why they sync, right? You can have a whole lot of sync'ed APs/masters at the one site and as long as they're transmitting at the same time and the client/slave sites aren't nearing the different master's you'll be fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Brett A Mansfield <[email protected]> wrote: That is exactly what I'm looking for. I need something inexpensive comparatively and it needs to be PtMP. I could use airfibers if I could do PTP, but that would be FAR too many radios in one location competing for airtime. Josh, I currently use 3.65, but I need high capacity. 80Mb at best is not near enough. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote: You’re looking for licensed PtMP backhaul? If that is the case, then CCS has a 28GHz offering with StraightPath. But not sure what you’re looking at price wise. You may just investigate multiple 23GHz shots or something similar depending on distance. Just want to make sure the request is clear. *************************************************************************** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 [email protected] Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn *************************************************************************** From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I'm looking for backhaul. Anything in 2.4 or 5GHz won't work. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 29, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: EPMP and maybe Ubnt AC Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 29, 2015 5:32 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]> wrote: I'm looking for the best high capacity and low cost PTMP solution. This is for my backhauls to distribute to smaller cells in a large area. Anyone know of something that fits this description? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield ---------------------------------------------------------------- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
