I've heard this argument before. I respond the same way every time. Where there is a will, there is a way. We just haven't found it yet.
Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On May 29, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Colin Stanners <[email protected]> wrote: > > 60 or 240ghz multipoint, with the massive signal loss due to not using > directional antennas, would have a reliable range of say 300ft? May be more > reasonable to string fiber, heck cat6 in most cases. > >> On May 29, 2015 5:49 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> 60 and 240GHz can make wireless in urban areas actually be able to compete >> with cable and maybe even fiber. >> >> Thank you, >> Brett A Mansfield >> >>> On May 29, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Brett A Mansfield >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Id stay ahead of the curve. There is a LOT of spectrum out there going >>> unused. For example, 60GHz and 240GHz. Yes they cannot go very far, but it >>> seems none of the other high frequency stuff can either. And these are >>> very high capacity. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Brett A Mansfield >>> >>>> On May 29, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Maybe you can explain what you would do different than all the other >>>> manufacturers that would solve the problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield >>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:33 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You don't need a lot of money to start manufacturing. You just need to >>>> know the right people. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Jason McKemie >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I hope you have a lot more money than most people here... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Brett A Mansfield >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yep, it sure does seem that way. I'm trying to think outside of the box, >>>> but every time I do I get back to the same place. Nothing I can do this >>>> with is on the market yet or never will be. I'm getting more and more >>>> tempted every day to start manufacturing my own stuff. I've already >>>> started looking into that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Anything you guys would like to see come to market? If I go into >>>> manufacturing I'm going to be all in. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> You need a different strategy. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield >>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:18 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You're very right about the 24GHz. I know several companies are working on >>>> something in 60GHz which would be ideal because it's not a very large area >>>> and can be daisy chained into a ring. 80GHz would be fine, but like you >>>> said nothing seems to exist. These CCS devices look great and might be >>>> exactly what I'm looking for. I just hope the price is right. They are 26 >>>> and 28GHz. But I think Vivint has a bit of a monopoly in my area with all >>>> of their 28GHz radios all over the place. I'm afraid the noise would be >>>> too much, even with the narrow beams. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm pretty sure the FCC doesn't allow PtMP in 24ghz. I don't know if >>>> anything exists for PtMP in 80ghz... or maybe 60ghz? >>>> >>>> It seems like the only real option here is 28ghz. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> You can buy spectrum in 28GHz and use Cambridge like Vivato does or >>>> depending on how many clients and range you are talking about, maybe >>>> something in 24 or 80GHz. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:58 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You know that's why they sync, right? You can have a whole lot of sync'ed >>>> APs/masters at the one site and as long as they're transmitting at the >>>> same time and the client/slave sites aren't nearing the different master's >>>> you'll be fine. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Brett A Mansfield >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> That is exactly what I'm looking for. I need something inexpensive >>>> comparatively and it needs to be PtMP. I could use airfibers if I could do >>>> PTP, but that would be FAR too many radios in one location competing for >>>> airtime. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh, I currently use 3.65, but I need high capacity. 80Mb at best is not >>>> near enough. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> You’re looking for licensed PtMP backhaul? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If that is the case, then CCS has a 28GHz offering with StraightPath. But >>>> not sure what you’re looking at price wise. You may just investigate >>>> multiple 23GHz shots or something similar depending on distance. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Just want to make sure the request is clear. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *************************************************************************** >>>> >>>> Daniel White - Managing Director >>>> >>>> SAF North America LLC >>>> >>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> Skype: danieldwhite >>>> Social: LinkedIn >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *************************************************************************** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield >>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:42 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm looking for backhaul. Anything in 2.4 or 5GHz won't work. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> EPMP and maybe Ubnt AC >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2015 5:32 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm looking for the best high capacity and low cost PTMP solution. This is >>>> for my backhauls to distribute to smaller cells in a large area. Anyone >>>> know of something that fits this description? >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> www.avast.com
