Why didn't someone tell me this a few years ago? now it's too late :P On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote:
> I started feeling like an old man lately, now I know why :-D > > > > Daniel White > > (303) 746-3590 > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup > *Sent:* Sunday, June 7, 2015 2:19 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS > > > > This industry turns you into an old man. :) If you were on Michael's P15 > lists, you're an old man around here. > > On 6/7/2015 2:44 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Until I met you, I thought you were an old man. ;-) > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"George Skorup" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Sunday, June 7, 2015 2:41:29 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS > > I'm 30 and I listen to stuff like Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Bad Company and > newer stuff like Metallica and Alice in Chains. I did like some of the pop > crap in the '90s, but I was a kid, and stupid. These kids today and the > garbage they listen to. It's disgusting. > > Now I sound like an old fart. Get off my lawn! > > On 6/7/2015 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I kind of tuned out from music in the 70’s. Too much ABBA, Bee Gees and > Donna Summer. Still hear “Hot Stuff” on the radio though. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPlV2dzXWCw > > > > My familiarity with the Allman Brothers Band comes mainly from their work > with Eric Clapton. > > > > *From:* George Skorup <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Sunday, June 07, 2015 1:52 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS > > > > I thought you were an old fart and knew everything about the '70s? :) > > On 6/7/2015 1:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Ahhhh, was not familiar with that song. Nice. But consulting the > interwebs, this would be the definitive version: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvxRjYqjEQ > > > > I also like the Wikipedia entry on “whipping boy”, I didn’t realize > princes had whipping boys who were punished when the prince misbehaved. > > > > > > *From:* George Skorup <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Sunday, June 07, 2015 1:04 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pCytK3LgfM > > On 6/7/2015 7:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > > It's always our fault. > > > > scape·goat > > ˈskāpˌɡōt/ > > *noun* > > noun: *scapegoat*; plural noun: *scapegoats* > > *1*. > > (in the Bible) a goat sent into the wilderness after the Jewish chief > priest had symbolically laid the sins of the people upon it (Lev. 16). > > § a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of > others, especially for reasons of expediency. > > synonyms: > > whipping boy; > > § > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: George Skorup > > Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 11:17 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS > > > > I disagree. This is exactly what Canopy does. DSCP12/AF is sent over the > > HP channel. Look at the default DiffServ table and see for yourself. > > Many managed switches are set up exactly the same way, except they have > > more queues, and Canopy only has MIR and HP. Well, there's LP CIR, but > > lets not get into that. ePMP just has "priority" which I assume means > > priority over everything else. > > > > I need a way to correct stupid manufacturer's mistakes (Grandstream > > being the worst offender). Lots of their devices ALWAYS send SIP packets > > as DSCP12 and this CANNOT be changed. Or the other one I mentioned, the > > GXP phones have one DSCP setting and this changes both SIP and RTP. I'm > > disgusted with their stupidity, but unfortunately it has to be supported > > because those devices aren't going away. > > > > It's totally doable and Cambium could add it by default, saving me time > > configuring every radio with it. Or just make DiffServ on ePMP > > work/configure like Canopy. > > > > I don't care what's wrong or right. I care about shit working right now > > and customers not being pissy. > > > > So the burden falls on the network as usual. It's always our fault. > > Sometimes I just don't know how I haven't murdered people. If I drank, > > it would probably happen. And I'm finding myself agreeing with that one > > guy Steve every other day now. Stupidity has no limit. > > > > On 6/6/2015 10:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > > >> Yo Cambium, you need to add DSCP 12 (Assured Forwarding) in addition to > > >> DSCP 46 (Expedited Forwarding) to the default VoIP priority > > >> configuration. > > > That would be a mistake and the wrong thing to do. > > > > > >> We're finding more devices sending SIP packets as AF and > > >> RTP as EF. > > > When a device is mis-configured, why should the burden of dealing with > that mis-configurtion as a default fall on another device > > > > > > There is plenty of flexibility to override the wrong setup of a device, > if that is they way you want to correct it in your radios... > > > (Which by all standards would be the wrong way to fix it...but more > power to you). > > > > > > Two wrongs don't make a right.. > > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > > > Snappy Internet & Telecom > > > 7266 SW 48 Street > > > Miami, FL 33155 > > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > > > > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "George Skorup" mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> > > >> To: [email protected] > > >> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 10:27:05 PM > > >> Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS > > >> > > >> Yo Cambium, you need to add DSCP 12 (Assured Forwarding) in addition to > > >> DSCP 46 (Expedited Forwarding) to the default VoIP priority > > >> configuration. We're finding more devices sending SIP packets as AF and > > >> RTP as EF. AF isn't prioritized and out-of-band signaling (prompts, etc) > > >> are sent as SIP messages so sometimes these are getting dropped, not to > > >> mention registrations, invites, etc. And more devices are stupid (mostly > > >> Grandstream), they only let you set ONE priority value for the entire > > >> device. These are coming default as DSCP12/AF. I've tried to get > > >> everyone to change this to 46, but they don't remember. > > >> > > >> Or just apply the whole Canopy DiffServ table. We've never had to change > > >> any of those code points. Turn HP on, it just works. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > [image: Avast logo] <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > >
