Did you set yourself up or did you just upset yourself thinking about it? ;)
On 6/7/2015 3:21 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
What if you bought his network? What does that make you?
(Yes, I'm aware I set myself up.)
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*From: *"George Skorup" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Sunday, June 7, 2015 3:18:43 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS
This industry turns you into an old man. :) If you were on Michael's
P15 lists, you're an old man around here.
On 6/7/2015 2:44 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Until I met you, I thought you were an old man. ;-)
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*From: *"George Skorup" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Sunday, June 7, 2015 2:41:29 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS
I'm 30 and I listen to stuff like Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Bad
Company and newer stuff like Metallica and Alice in Chains. I did
like some of the pop crap in the '90s, but I was a kid, and
stupid. These kids today and the garbage they listen to. It's
disgusting.
Now I sound like an old fart. Get off my lawn!
On 6/7/2015 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I kind of tuned out from music in the 70’s. Too much ABBA, Bee
Gees and Donna Summer. Still hear “Hot Stuff” on the radio
though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPlV2dzXWCw
My familiarity with the Allman Brothers Band comes mainly from
their work with Eric Clapton.
*From:* George Skorup <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Sunday, June 07, 2015 1:52 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS
I thought you were an old fart and knew everything about the
'70s? :)
On 6/7/2015 1:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Ahhhh, was not familiar with that song. Nice. But
consulting the interwebs, this would be the definitive
version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvxRjYqjEQ
I also like the Wikipedia entry on “whipping boy”, I
didn’t realize princes had whipping boys who were punished
when the prince misbehaved.
*From:* George Skorup <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Sunday, June 07, 2015 1:04 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pCytK3LgfM
On 6/7/2015 7:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> It's always our fault.
scape·goat
ˈskāpˌɡōt/
/noun/
noun: *scapegoat*; plural noun: *scapegoats*
*1*.
(in the Bible) a goat sent into the wilderness after
the Jewish chief priest had symbolically laid the sins
of the people upon it (Lev. 16).
*
a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings,
mistakes, or faults of others, especially for
reasons of expediency.
synonyms: whipping boy;
*
-----Original Message-----
From: George Skorup
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 11:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS
I disagree. This is exactly what Canopy does.
DSCP12/AF is sent over the
HP channel. Look at the default DiffServ table and see
for yourself.
Many managed switches are set up exactly the same way,
except they have
more queues, and Canopy only has MIR and HP. Well,
there's LP CIR, but
lets not get into that. ePMP just has "priority" which
I assume means
priority over everything else.
I need a way to correct stupid manufacturer's mistakes
(Grandstream
being the worst offender). Lots of their devices
ALWAYS send SIP packets
as DSCP12 and this CANNOT be changed. Or the other one
I mentioned, the
GXP phones have one DSCP setting and this changes both
SIP and RTP. I'm
disgusted with their stupidity, but unfortunately it
has to be supported
because those devices aren't going away.
It's totally doable and Cambium could add it by
default, saving me time
configuring every radio with it. Or just make DiffServ
on ePMP
work/configure like Canopy.
I don't care what's wrong or right. I care about shit
working right now
and customers not being pissy.
So the burden falls on the network as usual. It's
always our fault.
Sometimes I just don't know how I haven't murdered
people. If I drank,
it would probably happen. And I'm finding myself
agreeing with that one
guy Steve every other day now. Stupidity has no limit.
On 6/6/2015 10:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> Yo Cambium, you need to add DSCP 12 (Assured
Forwarding) in addition to
>> DSCP 46 (Expedited Forwarding) to the default VoIP
priority
>> configuration.
> That would be a mistake and the wrong thing to do.
>
>> We're finding more devices sending SIP packets as
AF and
>> RTP as EF.
> When a device is mis-configured, why should the
burden of dealing with that mis-configurtion as a
default fall on another device
>
> There is plenty of flexibility to override the wrong
setup of a device, if that is they way you want to
correct it in your radios...
> (Which by all standards would be the wrong way to
fix it...but more power to you).
>
> Two wrongs don't make a right..
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
[email protected]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "George Skorup" mailto:[email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 10:27:05 PM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS
>>
>> Yo Cambium, you need to add DSCP 12 (Assured
Forwarding) in addition to
>> DSCP 46 (Expedited Forwarding) to the default VoIP
priority
>> configuration. We're finding more devices sending
SIP packets as AF and
>> RTP as EF. AF isn't prioritized and out-of-band
signaling (prompts, etc)
>> are sent as SIP messages so sometimes these are
getting dropped, not to
>> mention registrations, invites, etc. And more
devices are stupid (mostly
>> Grandstream), they only let you set ONE priority
value for the entire
>> device. These are coming default as DSCP12/AF. I've
tried to get
>> everyone to change this to 46, but they don't remember.
>>
>> Or just apply the whole Canopy DiffServ table.
We've never had to change
>> any of those code points. Turn HP on, it just works.
>>
