Well, we're importing direct from China currently.  It's cheap.  For
example, we bought a demo kit, OLT, 16 of each ONT, Power Supplies,
etc...<$5k.  Each port is 1:64 capable, and has 8 ports.  Essentially we'll
probably only do 1:32.  Gives us around 200 subs per unit.  I think that
breaks it down to less than $15.  ONTs are <$60.

The engineering design of PON makes construction cheap.  We are using a 12
ct drop ($.19/ft) to serve 100 units.  Essentially, we'll do a 1x8 PLC with
4 feeders.  The 4 feeders repeat this design.  Essentially, you can serve
160 units that way.  I can reuse the infrastructure over and over and over
easily.

PLC's are super duper cheap.  I pay less than $25 landed cost to me from
China, regardless of 1x2-1x32.

My biggest cost is construction and machine maintenance.

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Roger Timmerman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> What are you guys seeing on your cost-per-customer for GPON OLT
> electronics? Based on 1:16 or 1:32 split? What about the ONT cost?
>
> For simple Ethernet aggregation of fiber, I've been looking at a cost of
> about $42/port for fiber aggregation (Huawei S5700-52X-LI-48CS-AC), with
> another $40 per bidi transceiver (1/2 of a dual bidi CSFP).  Then on the
> ONT side I have seen ~$40 for a dumb media converter with built-in bidi to
> $100 for a full featured indoor ONT with 4 GigE ports and 2 POTS.
>
> I haven't priced out GPON solutions in a while, but last I checked, it
> ended up costing a lot more than this.  Granted, I understand the OSP
> benefits of GPON, but just want to look at an electronics comparison.
>
> Roger
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm working on a new one right now (ZTE), but I will say we have had
>> issues with Dasan.  I would love to talk to someone who has deployed ZTE.
>> We're also evaluating Alphion.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:08 PM, KevinR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Can you tell us what vendors are working for you?
>>> I know you have said you have tried a few.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> The more PON we do, the more I like it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> PON to the desktop would only have active gear in the NOC and in the
>>>> device. Everything between is passive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>
>>>>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Nate Burke" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:16:36 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But Why?  I understand Long haul PON for FTTH, to conserve miles and
>>>> miles of trunk fiber, but why in a building?  Instead of having a single
>>>> device (a switch) you now have active hardware all over the building to
>>>> manage and maintain (And power).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:08 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>
>>>> PON looks to be where people are going for fiber to the desktop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>
>>>>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Nate Burke" <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *"Animal Farm" <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:49:14 AM
>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?
>>>>
>>>> We just had a new public library built here in town.  The entire LAN
>>>> infrastructure is built on PON using the Tellabs ONT's.
>>>> http://www01.tellabs.com/products/tellabs1100ont.shtml  I've briefly
>>>> looked around their site, and read some case studies, but Why would you
>>>> choose PON infrastructure in a single building?  From what I can tell,
>>>> you still have to run CAT 5 to the ONT for power, and the 4 port units
>>>> (which I saw several around the library) have a wall-wort and a power
>>>> switch.  I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the concept, other
>>>> than someone make a slick presentation, and someone else got a nice
>>>> payoff.  I wouldn't be surprised of the Latter, every single 120v
>>>> outlet
>>>> in the building is a 20A duplex receptacle with USB Ports (~$30 each)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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