If there are no poles, does ROW give privilege to put them in? I assume
that would get costly.

Im probably wrong here, but I dont like poles of the wood kind, our drunks
in our rural areas are masters at taking out more than one per DUI, we have
champion drunks here. And I dee them snapped alot in the winter time.

I wouldnt consider anything direct buried.


Would you put handholes in at intersections where you would be making a
turn?

Do farmers do JULIE (thats our locating program in this area) before they
tile? I assume not since they take ROW to farm, a little each year (we had
a project go through a couple years ago where a farmer has a few miles of
corn about 10 feet wide dug out for being in the ROW, I loved it, cheating
tax subsidized prick)


On average, for plowed or trenched duct, permitting costs aside, what is
the cost per mile to run fiber (duct and fiber I assume are the only
infrastructure costs exclusing the treminations and hardware on each end)

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>  How do Comcast and Centurylink get that privilege then?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:20 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
>
>
>
> Nope
>
>
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:11 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
>
>
>
> Also, does this mean we can get on the city/plat developers list and put
> conduit in open trench and see/approve developer ROW plans?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
>
>
>
> Ye’all have rights for ROWs now.  Was in the latest report and order from
> the FCC.  If you are a BIAS provider (which you all are) you are considered
> a “public utility” for the purpose of obtain ROW access.
>
>
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:19 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
>
>
>
> The original rule of thumb was something to do with what size stick you
> can use to beat your wife/kids without breaking the law.  144 strand loose
> tube is about the size of a thumb, so in some jurisdictions you might have
> been able to discipline your family with it.  Say hi to your thumb for me.
>
> Aerial is cheaper if you have pole attachment rights.  You don't need pole
> attachment rights (or any special rights) to bury in a ROW, but you can
> point at it when some guvmint goon questions you.  It looks kind of
> official.
>
> On 6/30/2015 12:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
>  Say you want to run fiber for 10 miles.
>
> Aside from the boring equipment and permits what does that entail?
>
>
>
> I know there are 36 bazillion answers, but humor me.
>
>
>
> Details like how often you need handholes and how to deal with slacking
> for cut fiber splicing would be very helpful.
>
>
>
> What is a rule of thumb in your long term planning on how often you can
> expect a fiber cut. (an example of rule of thumb is I expect a storm
> related issue at least once every three years at every site, there is no
> actual science, or math, I just look at my thumb and it provides me sage
> answers)
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>



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