If it is a epmp, the dish tilts forward more than you would expect.  Probably a 
vertical sidelobe.

10dB is only added if the main lobe is properly aligned on boresight to the 
other end. 
All other directions it has less gain on the boresight.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 8:36 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Can you be too close to use a dish?

My point is, at 0.6 miles if he was on main lobe he would have a -40 something. 
 Being on a sidelobe gets him the -67.  Shouldn't the dish still add 10 more db?

....unless we're interpreting this as meaning a side lobe of the dish.  That's 
possible, but at .6 miles the installer would have to be drunk.



On 9/3/2015 10:31 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Side lobe wouldn't be 10db if the focal point is 10db.  Otherwise you could 
aim on side lobes all day without consequence.

  Josh Luthman
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  On Sep 3, 2015 10:29 AM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Maybe I'm crazy, but a 10db antenna will still give 10db if it's aimed at a 
sidelobe won't it?


    On 9/3/2015 10:27 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

      That was one thing that I was thinking about as well. If I got my azimuth 
correct and the guys on the tower got the antenna aligned correctly they should 
be on the outside of the main lobe but we've got two LOS customers at .75 and 
.4 miles that have signals in the -50's.  I expected them to be in the -30's or 
-40's.

      Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

        you are hitting a side lobe .......
        for best results, try to adjust your antenna tilt on the AP.

        (Have someone look at the CPE's (paying attention to the farthest 
ones), and then adjust the tilt on the AP Antenna... so as to best combination 
of signals on the close by cpe's and the far cpe..)


        :)

        Faisal Imtiaz
        Snappy Internet & Telecom
        7266 SW 48 Street
        Miami, FL 33155
        Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

        Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

        ----- Original Message -----

          From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]>
          To: [email protected]
          Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 9:18:43 AM
          Subject: [AFMUG] Can you be too close to use a dish?
          I upgraded a customer to 2.4 ePMP last week that was about .6 miles 
from
          the tower.  The signal with just an integrated SM was -67 so I decided
          to use one of Chuck's dishes for ePMP but only got an extra 2 to 3 db
          improvement.   The last time (only time) I used the dish I got 8 to 10
          db improvement but was about 2 miles from the tower.  Is that too 
close
          to the tower for a dish or is that just the nature of wireless?








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