Agreed.

On 9/14/2015 2:58 PM, Joshua Stump wrote:
GET OFF MY LAWN!

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I hope there is a way under the Open Internet Order to deny
    service to gamers who live stream on Twitch.  The term “attractive
    nuisance” comes to mind.
    In addition to DOS attacks, wasn’t there a rash of swatting
    attacks against Twitch players, where the SWAT team would bust
    into their house while they were streaming?
    *From:* Mark Radabaugh <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Monday, September 14, 2015 1:40 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24HD
    Last week we start getting angry twitter posts from a customer but
    no matching name.
    About the same time a tower site goes down. Start investigating
    the outage and find >100Mbps flooding the tower from a DOS
    attack.   Track down the IP/Customer it’s aimed at.  Hey, wait a
minute, isn’t that the guy complaining on twitter? Oh yeah. Claims to be a professional call of duty player who gets paid. Really?
    Mark
    On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    That competitor is in for a rude awakening, customers whose VoIP
    calls drop and Roku video freezes consider even a momentary
    outage or degradation "Unacceptable!" (to quote Beldar):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YUE7LAFrOM
    This is not the Internet of a few years ago, where people didn't
    even notice short outages.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Seth Mattinen
    Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:58 AM
    To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24HD
    On 9/14/15 09:42, Ken Hohhof wrote:
    > That’s just crazy, unless you can tolerate outages whenever it
    rains.
    > Whatever number you use for rain fade per mile, let’s say 10
    dB/mile at
    > 24 GHz, multiply by 12. No way you are going to get 120 dB fade
    > margin.  The only way would be if your weather is such that it
    never
    > rains over more than a very small area at the same time.
    There's a competitor in my area with outages or degraded service as
    normal ops (it's a feature not a bug) and their customers largely
    seem
    to accept it.
    ~Seth




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