Yep, Mark, I think you're exactly right (except maybe the assumption college will be better).

This was an opportunity for learning. I guess schools aren't for learning anymore. Police stations are? The engineering teacher could have told them it wasn't a bomb. The clock should have gone to the principal's office. The kid should have gone back to class. The parents should have been called and told to pick up their kid and the clock after school, where they could all discuss what went wrong and what the kid and the parents should do differently next time.

But incidents that used to be handled routinely by teachers, principals and parents are now a police matter. Schools with their "zero tolerance" policies don't believe, or are not allowed to believe, that they are in the business of teaching kids to become adults. Oh, no, this kid is acting like a kid, call the police.

Maybe I should have more sympathy for the schools. Probably today if schools call parents about their kids screwing up, the tiger parents go nuclear on the school or call their lawyer, rather than dealing with their kid's misbehavior.


-----Original Message----- From: Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:19 PM
To: That One Guy /sarcasm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hmmmm


Kid = 14 year old kid - they do dumb stuff

English Teacher = cave man - doesn't understand electronics, is very concerned
needs to consult with the elders

Principle = 1/2 douche - I can understand him calling the cops to
cover his ass.

Engineering Teacher = full douche with no balls.  Were the hell was
this guy.  He was most likely the only one in the school that could
translate between what the kid did and dumb it down enough for
everyone to understand.

Police - 50% douche / 50% caveman. What is this
foreign wizard technology.  I think I saw one of these on TV once, must
be a bomb.  Burn him!

Every adult in the room with the kid as a group - 150% douche - At
what point in time did it become acceptable to bully and threaten a 14
year old kid.  We have 5 - 7 adult authority figures in a room with a 14
year old kid.  The best they could come up with is to slap him in hand
cuffs and drag him to jail.  BTW - lets make sure we do it when all
the other kids are in the hall.  WTF - why weren't his parents called to
the school?  Don't give me the crap that they really thought it was a
bomb.  If they thought it was a bomb, the bomb squad would have been
there and the school would have been evacuated.

Police chief - Almost acted normal.  Came out fairly quick that there
was nothing to see here, so just keep moving on.  He dropped the
charges real quick.  Guess he didn't want anything to do with this
circus.

School system - 100% douche - how to you give a kid suspension for not
doing anything.  He didn't build a bomb.  He didn't pretend it was a
bomb.  He never mentioned the bomb word.  When asked he showed the
teacher the clock.  He wasn't trying to hide anything.  What exactly
did he get suspended for?

Father - not sure where to put him, seems to have a chip on his
shoulder.


At the end of the day it does matter what this kid brought to school.
It doesn't matter that he is Muslim, Jewish, Mormon or Christian.  He
did nothing wrong.  He answered the questions truthfully, he never
threatened anyone, and he never tried to hide anything.  The adults in
this story FAILED.  At any given point in time we had 7-8 adults at
the school trying to figure out what happen.  As usual now a days they
over reacted and common sense what thrown into the void.  This should
have never been a news story.  It should have never left the school.

Parents should have been called.  Maybe one police officer should have
shown up.  A rational discussion of what happen should have taken
place.  Kid should have been advised to clear all future
experiments/inventions with engineering teacher.  Maybe all future
engineering projects should stay in the engineering lab until after
school.  Kid should have been sent back to class, parents back to
work, police back to speed traps, and principal back to whatever
principles do now a days.

I only have 3 more years left of dealing with public schools.  It is
sad I'm counting the days that my children go off to college.


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Tuesday, September 22, 2015, 8:31:57 PM, you wrote:

TOGs> realistically how does anyone here or most anyone in the
TOGs> non jihad world even know what a bomb in a briefcase looks like,
TOGs> beyond what is on tv. The kid is a douche, his dad is a douche,
TOGs> whoever escalated it to an arrest is a douche, whoever reported
TOGs> it is a solid citizen, better to report and be wrong than scrape
TOGs> kids off walls. the president is a douche for inviting him to
TOGs> the white house before ensuring it wasn't a stunt.
TOGs> He will get 15 minutes, and a ton of free loot (look at
TOGs> the Microsoft care package) his dad will further his agenda, and
TOGs> some new travesty will pop up.
TOGs> the only thing that changed is his ability to fly
TOGs> unmolested, he made the top ten on the no fly lists I bet.
TOGs> He better hope he didn't social media it up about his
TOGs> plans for this stunt, he will have royally fucked his life up if
TOGs> he did.




TOGs> I wonder if he was planning on adding batteries to make it a portable alarm clock


TOGs> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:02 PM, - -
TOGs> <[email protected]> wrote:
TOGs> Bombs in briefcases are something from a bad action movie...




On September 22, 2015 at 3:53 PM George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote:


I don't doubt there was prejudice based only on his name, but you know
what I think of when I see a clock in a briefcase? A damn bomb! What he
did was as dumb as painting over or taking the orange muzzle piece off
of a water gun and then running around town with it. You're gonna get
shot by the cops, dumb ass.

Maybe that's un-PC of me. I don't give a shit.

On 9/22/2015 5:34 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
> I saw a teevee interview with the kid and honestly he seemed like the
> super nerdy kid (like myself) who would disassemble stuff and
> reassemble it to make it better or "more cool".ᅵ He really did not
> seem provocative or anything.ᅵ He was super excited to show off his
> "invention".ᅵ Granted to us "expert" adults his invention seems like
> just a repackaging but give the kid a break, he's 14 and has probably
> just learned about electronics and such.ᅵ That was my take on the
> revere engineering article and the news interview.
>
> 2 cents
>
> -Sean
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵThat reverse engineering article lead me to wonder if the kid >was
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵtrying to be provocative.
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ*From:* Bill Prince
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ*Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 4:17 PM
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ*To:* [email protected]
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hmmmm
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵHmmm indeed.
>
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵWhen I saw that (maybe 2 seconds of viewing time) on the >evening
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵnews, I came away with two things. One, where's the alleged
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵexplosive? and Two, that's not even a MacGiver'ed clock, it's
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵmerely a commercial "clock" that's been partially >disassembled.
>
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵMy conclusion? The teacher and the police are idiots.
>
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵbp
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>ᅵ ᅵ ᅵOn 9/22/2015 2:00 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>ᅵ ᅵ
http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/
>











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