The biggest lift I’ve seen is around 180’.  From there you are looking at a 
crane for $10K per day.   Almost cheaper to get a helicopter at that point.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers


You can build a 300 for tower cheaper than putting a caged last on that thing. 
I think you are on the right track. Insurance and backups. Insurance should be 
cheap adding it to what you already have. Maybe a cheaper alternative if you 
want to be able to climb it are pegs and a safety climb. Pegs with epoxy would 
take about two minutes each, one every eighteen inches, a hard full days work.

I did something similar using industrial sized concrete anchor screws on the 
face of a brick building years ago. I climbed it last Friday and it is still 
solid.

I think the least effort would obviously be the lift but I have no idea how 
easy it is to get a lift that big, or expensive.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 2:41 AM Eric Kuhnke 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

You price out 200' of caged ladder and installation on a 120 year old brick 
structure???
On Sep 28, 2015 7:40 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Get a mason to inspect it, have them install a caged ladder if its safe

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Jeremy 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I have the opportunity to go up on some of the tallest structures around, but 
they are smokestacks built in the late 1800s.  They are probably 300' tall.  I 
can find a ton of examples of where companies have done this by searching 
'smokestack cell tower' on Google Image search, but I have some real concerns.  
One concern, the stacks in this area seem to have been grandfathered in, as 
they have no warning lights on top.  Two, we live in an earthquake zone.  It is 
not a matter of 'if', but 'when'.  So, these will likely come tumbling down.  
When that happens, are people going to point fingers at the company who added 
weight to the structure when it crushes someone?

There are some obvious engineering hurdles (renting a crane every time there is 
an issue, or mounting low enough to rent a man lift, adding backup equipment in 
case of failure, etc.), but those can be overcome.  I am primarily concerned 
about liability, and the potential for having to update the structure to 
include lighting.  Has anyone on this list ever attempted something on the 
scale of a 300' smokestack from the turn of the century?  Any pointers, or 
specific law firms that I should contact?  Seriously debating just scrapping 
the idea....



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