We must have great deals on cranes around here. I can get a 60' Genie for $45 an hour, or $925 a week locally, and then just go up 60'. Not sure that is going to be high enough though. That includes delivery and dropoff/pickup with a semi.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: > Come to think of it, we pay more than that for an 85’ man-life in Phoenix. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:20 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers > > > > Wow, we paid $5G’s 5 years ago for 180’. For $800, get the crane. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Jeremy > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:57 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers > > > > Ok, the stacks are abandoned and not in use. Crane with a man basket for > a day is $800, half a day is $400. The inside is pretty dirty, and I have > no intention of going inside of it. I am planning to run shielded > liquitite up the side. I don't want to put breakout boxes every 10-15' > like I do on towers, so I'll probably run a steel cable with the wire > attached through the conduit, to support the cable weight. > > > > So the trolley idea is for changing the light at the top, if required? > That seems like it would work. The whole thing may turn out to exceed the > cost of just going up on the commercial towers next to it. > > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would build a rubber tired trolley that will roll up the side of the > smokestack. You can lower it to work on the radios and use the cable to > pull it back up. Then you only need to go up and attach the pulley one > time. If there is no activity in the smokestack, you can run the cable up > the inside. Depending on the diameter, you could build some kind of spider > type of thing with spring loaded legs to span the inside and get pulled up > too. Then it would be stealthy. > > > > I would love to work on this idea. > > > > I did a tower like this. Used one of those lighting fixtures common at > major freeway interchanges. The whole lighting structure lowers on a > trolly. > > > > *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:24 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers > > > > The biggest lift I’ve seen is around 180’. From there you are looking at > a crane for $10K per day. Almost cheaper to get a helicopter at that > point. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:14 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers > > > > You can build a 300 for tower cheaper than putting a caged last on that > thing. I think you are on the right track. Insurance and backups. Insurance > should be cheap adding it to what you already have. Maybe a cheaper > alternative if you want to be able to climb it are pegs and a safety climb. > Pegs with epoxy would take about two minutes each, one every eighteen > inches, a hard full days work. > > I did something similar using industrial sized concrete anchor screws on > the face of a brick building years ago. I climbed it last Friday and it is > still solid. > > I think the least effort would obviously be the lift but I have no idea > how easy it is to get a lift that big, or expensive. > > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 2:41 AM Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote: > > You price out 200' of caged ladder and installation on a 120 year old > brick structure??? > > On Sep 28, 2015 7:40 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Get a mason to inspect it, have them install a caged ladder if its safe > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have the opportunity to go up on some of the tallest structures around, > but they are smokestacks built in the late 1800s. They are probably 300' > tall. I can find a ton of examples of where companies have done this by > searching 'smokestack cell tower' on Google Image search, but I have some > real concerns. One concern, the stacks in this area seem to have been > grandfathered in, as they have no warning lights on top. Two, we live in > an earthquake zone. It is not a matter of 'if', but 'when'. So, these > will likely come tumbling down. When that happens, are people going to > point fingers at the company who added weight to the structure when it > crushes someone? > > > > There are some obvious engineering hurdles (renting a crane every time > there is an issue, or mounting low enough to rent a man lift, adding backup > equipment in case of failure, etc.), but those can be overcome. I am > primarily concerned about liability, and the potential for having to update > the structure to include lighting. Has anyone on this list ever attempted > something on the scale of a 300' smokestack from the turn of the century? > Any pointers, or specific law firms that I should contact? Seriously > debating just scrapping the idea.... > > > > > -- > > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > > >
