Or you could hire this guy, who is certifiably insane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLp5hlyrtnE
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, that is a small lift. That is the cheapest alternative. I am just > covering options. We have rented a crane on numerous occasions. I am just > looking at turnaround time in the case of an outage. If we have to wait on > scheduling the 300' crane it is going to take a few days. I can get the > Genie anytime, within a day. > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Isn't that a small lift, not a crane? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Sep 29, 2015 10:33 AM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We must have great deals on cranes around here. I can get a 60' Genie >>> for $45 an hour, or $925 a week locally, and then just go up 60'. Not sure >>> that is going to be high enough though. That includes delivery and >>> dropoff/pickup with a semi. >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Come to think of it, we pay more than that for an 85’ man-life in >>>> Phoenix. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:20 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Wow, we paid $5G’s 5 years ago for 180’. For $800, get the crane. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>> Behalf Of *Jeremy >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:57 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ok, the stacks are abandoned and not in use. Crane with a man basket >>>> for a day is $800, half a day is $400. The inside is pretty dirty, and I >>>> have no intention of going inside of it. I am planning to run shielded >>>> liquitite up the side. I don't want to put breakout boxes every 10-15' >>>> like I do on towers, so I'll probably run a steel cable with the wire >>>> attached through the conduit, to support the cable weight. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So the trolley idea is for changing the light at the top, if required? >>>> That seems like it would work. The whole thing may turn out to exceed the >>>> cost of just going up on the commercial towers next to it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would build a rubber tired trolley that will roll up the side of the >>>> smokestack. You can lower it to work on the radios and use the cable to >>>> pull it back up. Then you only need to go up and attach the pulley one >>>> time. If there is no activity in the smokestack, you can run the cable up >>>> the inside. Depending on the diameter, you could build some kind of spider >>>> type of thing with spring loaded legs to span the inside and get pulled up >>>> too. Then it would be stealthy. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I would love to work on this idea. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I did a tower like this. Used one of those lighting fixtures common at >>>> major freeway interchanges. The whole lighting structure lowers on a >>>> trolly. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:24 AM >>>> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The biggest lift I’ve seen is around 180’. From there you are looking >>>> at a crane for $10K per day. Almost cheaper to get a helicopter at that >>>> point. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:14 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You can build a 300 for tower cheaper than putting a caged last on that >>>> thing. I think you are on the right track. Insurance and backups. Insurance >>>> should be cheap adding it to what you already have. Maybe a cheaper >>>> alternative if you want to be able to climb it are pegs and a safety climb. >>>> Pegs with epoxy would take about two minutes each, one every eighteen >>>> inches, a hard full days work. >>>> >>>> I did something similar using industrial sized concrete anchor screws >>>> on the face of a brick building years ago. I climbed it last Friday and it >>>> is still solid. >>>> >>>> I think the least effort would obviously be the lift but I have no idea >>>> how easy it is to get a lift that big, or expensive. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 2:41 AM Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> You price out 200' of caged ladder and installation on a 120 year old >>>> brick structure??? >>>> >>>> On Sep 28, 2015 7:40 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Get a mason to inspect it, have them install a caged ladder if its safe >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have the opportunity to go up on some of the tallest structures >>>> around, but they are smokestacks built in the late 1800s. They are >>>> probably 300' tall. I can find a ton of examples of where companies have >>>> done this by searching 'smokestack cell tower' on Google Image search, but >>>> I have some real concerns. One concern, the stacks in this area seem to >>>> have been grandfathered in, as they have no warning lights on top. Two, we >>>> live in an earthquake zone. It is not a matter of 'if', but 'when'. So, >>>> these will likely come tumbling down. When that happens, are people going >>>> to point fingers at the company who added weight to the structure when it >>>> crushes someone? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There are some obvious engineering hurdles (renting a crane every time >>>> there is an issue, or mounting low enough to rent a man lift, adding backup >>>> equipment in case of failure, etc.), but those can be overcome. I am >>>> primarily concerned about liability, and the potential for having to update >>>> the structure to include lighting. Has anyone on this list ever attempted >>>> something on the scale of a 300' smokestack from the turn of the century? >>>> Any pointers, or specific law firms that I should contact? Seriously >>>> debating just scrapping the idea.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >
