Isn't that a small lift, not a crane? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2015 10:33 AM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> We must have great deals on cranes around here. I can get a 60' Genie for > $45 an hour, or $925 a week locally, and then just go up 60'. Not sure > that is going to be high enough though. That includes delivery and > dropoff/pickup with a semi. > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Come to think of it, we pay more than that for an 85’ man-life in Phoenix. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:20 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers >> >> >> >> Wow, we paid $5G’s 5 years ago for 180’. For $800, get the crane. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Jeremy >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:57 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers >> >> >> >> Ok, the stacks are abandoned and not in use. Crane with a man basket for >> a day is $800, half a day is $400. The inside is pretty dirty, and I have >> no intention of going inside of it. I am planning to run shielded >> liquitite up the side. I don't want to put breakout boxes every 10-15' >> like I do on towers, so I'll probably run a steel cable with the wire >> attached through the conduit, to support the cable weight. >> >> >> >> So the trolley idea is for changing the light at the top, if required? >> That seems like it would work. The whole thing may turn out to exceed the >> cost of just going up on the commercial towers next to it. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I would build a rubber tired trolley that will roll up the side of the >> smokestack. You can lower it to work on the radios and use the cable to >> pull it back up. Then you only need to go up and attach the pulley one >> time. If there is no activity in the smokestack, you can run the cable up >> the inside. Depending on the diameter, you could build some kind of spider >> type of thing with spring loaded legs to span the inside and get pulled up >> too. Then it would be stealthy. >> >> >> >> I would love to work on this idea. >> >> >> >> I did a tower like this. Used one of those lighting fixtures common at >> major freeway interchanges. The whole lighting structure lowers on a >> trolly. >> >> >> >> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:24 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers >> >> >> >> The biggest lift I’ve seen is around 180’. From there you are looking at >> a crane for $10K per day. Almost cheaper to get a helicopter at that >> point. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:14 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers >> >> >> >> You can build a 300 for tower cheaper than putting a caged last on that >> thing. I think you are on the right track. Insurance and backups. Insurance >> should be cheap adding it to what you already have. Maybe a cheaper >> alternative if you want to be able to climb it are pegs and a safety climb. >> Pegs with epoxy would take about two minutes each, one every eighteen >> inches, a hard full days work. >> >> I did something similar using industrial sized concrete anchor screws on >> the face of a brick building years ago. I climbed it last Friday and it is >> still solid. >> >> I think the least effort would obviously be the lift but I have no idea >> how easy it is to get a lift that big, or expensive. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 2:41 AM Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You price out 200' of caged ladder and installation on a 120 year old >> brick structure??? >> >> On Sep 28, 2015 7:40 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Get a mason to inspect it, have them install a caged ladder if its safe >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I have the opportunity to go up on some of the tallest structures around, >> but they are smokestacks built in the late 1800s. They are probably 300' >> tall. I can find a ton of examples of where companies have done this by >> searching 'smokestack cell tower' on Google Image search, but I have some >> real concerns. One concern, the stacks in this area seem to have been >> grandfathered in, as they have no warning lights on top. Two, we live in >> an earthquake zone. It is not a matter of 'if', but 'when'. So, these >> will likely come tumbling down. When that happens, are people going to >> point fingers at the company who added weight to the structure when it >> crushes someone? >> >> >> >> There are some obvious engineering hurdles (renting a crane every time >> there is an issue, or mounting low enough to rent a man lift, adding backup >> equipment in case of failure, etc.), but those can be overcome. I am >> primarily concerned about liability, and the potential for having to update >> the structure to include lighting. Has anyone on this list ever attempted >> something on the scale of a 300' smokestack from the turn of the century? >> Any pointers, or specific law firms that I should contact? Seriously >> debating just scrapping the idea.... >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >> >> > >
