That's a very interesting document, thanks Ken. On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
> When the customer has read and understood this document, maybe listen to > his traceroute complaints: > > https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog45/presentations/Sunday/RAS_traceroute_N45.pdf > > Latency or packet loss to a certain hop but not beyond sounds like a > control plane vs data plane issue and not a real problem to be complaining > about. > > Seriously, if the packets are making it to hop N+1, they are clearly > making it to hop N, and if traceroute says otherwise it’s because some > router or layer 3 switch in the middle has better things to do than respond > to all your pings. > > > *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2015 4:09 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] simple online traceroute monitoring > > That's probably it. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Friday, October 2, 2015 3:52:42 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] simple online traceroute monitoring > > May have to go that route. Its a rare occasion I need to do this, but when > it gets to the point I can turn on icmp in their router for them. The > current customer in particulare is seeing packetloss upstream to certain > hops but not beyond, we dont see it in our tracroutes. Im beginning to > wonder if hes not running so much ICMP that his IP isnt hitting a threshold > and getting filtered out on the upstream device. > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> That would be cool to check from the outside, but wouldn’t that require >> their router to have ICMP open? >> >> >> >> That’s not often the default on most home routers, right? >> >> >> >> It’s so simple to provision and use a hosted VM these days, that it’s >> probably just the way to go. >> >> >> >> I mean for $50 a month you can get a full instance of Windows from Amazon >> hosted services that includes Office too! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy >> /sarcasm >> *Sent:* Friday, October 2, 2015 12:31 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] simple online traceroute monitoring >> >> >> >> I use a couple products, pingploter and multiping to monitor outbound >> paths, latency and loss. I'm looking for a simple online product to do the >> same. Everything I find seems geared to full website monitoring like >> monitis and whatnot. Any recommendations beyond ordering some hosted space >> and installing the two apps I use to monitor and alert inbound connectivity >> issues? >> >> This is primarily for monitoring problem customers why complain about >> latency and loss not really visible from inside our network to them. >> >> -- >> >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > >
