Thats an amazing document. I didnt even tldr it On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Colin Stanners <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's a very interesting document, thanks Ken. > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > >> When the customer has read and understood this document, maybe listen to >> his traceroute complaints: >> >> https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog45/presentations/Sunday/RAS_traceroute_N45.pdf >> >> Latency or packet loss to a certain hop but not beyond sounds like a >> control plane vs data plane issue and not a real problem to be complaining >> about. >> >> Seriously, if the packets are making it to hop N+1, they are clearly >> making it to hop N, and if traceroute says otherwise it’s because some >> router or layer 3 switch in the middle has better things to do than respond >> to all your pings. >> >> >> *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2015 4:09 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] simple online traceroute monitoring >> >> That's probably it. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Friday, October 2, 2015 3:52:42 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] simple online traceroute monitoring >> >> May have to go that route. Its a rare occasion I need to do this, but >> when it gets to the point I can turn on icmp in their router for them. The >> current customer in particulare is seeing packetloss upstream to certain >> hops but not beyond, we dont see it in our tracroutes. Im beginning to >> wonder if hes not running so much ICMP that his IP isnt hitting a threshold >> and getting filtered out on the upstream device. >> >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> That would be cool to check from the outside, but wouldn’t that require >>> their router to have ICMP open? >>> >>> >>> >>> That’s not often the default on most home routers, right? >>> >>> >>> >>> It’s so simple to provision and use a hosted VM these days, that it’s >>> probably just the way to go. >>> >>> >>> >>> I mean for $50 a month you can get a full instance of Windows from >>> Amazon hosted services that includes Office too! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy >>> /sarcasm >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 2, 2015 12:31 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] simple online traceroute monitoring >>> >>> >>> >>> I use a couple products, pingploter and multiping to monitor outbound >>> paths, latency and loss. I'm looking for a simple online product to do the >>> same. Everything I find seems geared to full website monitoring like >>> monitis and whatnot. Any recommendations beyond ordering some hosted space >>> and installing the two apps I use to monitor and alert inbound connectivity >>> issues? >>> >>> This is primarily for monitoring problem customers why complain about >>> latency and loss not really visible from inside our network to them. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >> > > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
