Check out ChiNOG. There have been similar presentations. Last time there was on 
about HFT from a guy I know. 




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From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 10:26:59 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] simple online traceroute monitoring 


Thats an amazing document. I didnt even tldr it 


On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Colin Stanners < [email protected] > wrote: 



That's a very interesting document, thanks Ken. 



On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote: 

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When the customer has read and understood this document, maybe listen to his 
traceroute complaints: 
https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog45/presentations/Sunday/RAS_traceroute_N45.pdf
 

Latency or packet loss to a certain hop but not beyond sounds like a control 
plane vs data plane issue and not a real problem to be complaining about. 

Seriously, if the packets are making it to hop N+1, they are clearly making it 
to hop N, and if traceroute says otherwise it’s because some router or layer 3 
switch in the middle has better things to do than respond to all your pings. 





From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 4:09 PM 
To: [email protected] 




Subject: Re: [AFMUG] simple online traceroute monitoring 






That's probably it. 




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From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 3:52:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] simple online traceroute monitoring 


May have to go that route. Its a rare occasion I need to do this, but when it 
gets to the point I can turn on icmp in their router for them. The current 
customer in particulare is seeing packetloss upstream to certain hops but not 
beyond, we dont see it in our tracroutes. Im beginning to wonder if hes not 
running so much ICMP that his IP isnt hitting a threshold and getting filtered 
out on the upstream device. 


On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Sterling Jacobson < [email protected] > 
wrote: 

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That would be cool to check from the outside, but wouldn’t that require their 
router to have ICMP open? 

That’s not often the default on most home routers, right? 

It’s so simple to provision and use a hosted VM these days, that it’s probably 
just the way to go. 

I mean for $50 a month you can get a full instance of Windows from Amazon 
hosted services that includes Office too! 



From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 12:31 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [AFMUG] simple online traceroute monitoring 





I use a couple products, pingploter and multiping to monitor outbound paths, 
latency and loss. I'm looking for a simple online product to do the same. 
Everything I find seems geared to full website monitoring like monitis and 
whatnot. Any recommendations beyond ordering some hosted space and installing 
the two apps I use to monitor and alert inbound connectivity issues? 

This is primarily for monitoring problem customers why complain about latency 
and loss not really visible from inside our network to them. 

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