At the risk of sounding repetitive: http://www.theonion.com/article/nra-calls-for-teachers-to-keep-loaded-gun-pointed--34336
On Saturday, October 10, 2015, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> wrote: > Did anyone see Saturday night live tonight? Funny parody of the NRA > commercials. > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 11:03 PM Jay Weekley <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Statistically, you're more likely to be killed by a drunk or distracted >> driver than someone with a gun. >> >> Mathew Howard wrote: >> > Oh, I agree... the world would be better if we could get rid of bad >> > drivers. I have to agree with what Patrick said, cops should focus >> > more on ticketing bad drivers, and not so much on randomly giving out >> > tickets on highways where everyone (including cops...) speeds. >> > >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>> wrote: >> > >> > I dunno... >> > >> > I think the world would be a better place if bad drivers weren't >> > allowed to drive. They need to retest or something every decade or >> > so, maybe just once they get more than one violation. I don't >> > know, but too many people drive like idiots just to get to the red >> > light one second faster than the next guy. Maybe they just all >> > need to get off their butts and build a race car, get it out of >> > their system. >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > *From:* Mathew Howard <mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> > *To:* af <mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> > *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2015 5:54 PM >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >> > >> > Yes... realistically, the same standards wouldn't work here. >> > If we had the same requirements to be able to drive, half the >> > population wouldn't have any way to get to work (or wherever >> > it is they need to go) everyday. Thousands of lives would be >> > saved every year from the reduction in traffic deaths, but I'm >> > pretty sure there would be very, very little support from >> > anyone for changing our driving standards to something similar >> > to what Germany has. >> > >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Patrick Leary >> > <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> <mailto: >> [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>> >> > wrote: >> > >> > I lived in Germany. There, people pay good money to earn >> > the privilege to drive. You must be 18 and it costs well >> > over a grand. As a result, German drivers are predictable. >> > You’ll never see a German driver passing on the right. >> > You’ll never see a German driver holding up traffic in a >> > left or even middle lane. You won’t see a German change >> > lanes without using their indicator. And of course, >> > Germans respect that government has a job and is not the >> > enemy, so they don’t reject taxation for infrastructure. >> > As a result, Germany has MUCH better roads than we do. >> > Seriously. The German autobahn is twice as thick and >> > better banked. To be fair, we have thousands of miles more >> > of Interstate, so we do have a harder job. Still. Also, >> > you can’t drive a jalopy in Germany, which has strict >> > inspection rules, that even include aesthetics, but the >> > emphasis is on safe functioning. >> > >> > We can’t realistically have the same regime though, we >> > have much larger distances and lots of backroads and farms >> > and country roads. I think we don’t need the same standard >> > of road, but we do need roads that are well-maintained, >> > and we need much better driving skills. Our cops should >> > focus less on cherry-picking speed traps (many areas here >> > in FL are nationally famous for bullshit speed traps – >> > e.g. Waldo, FL) and more on ticketing bad drivers. >> > >> > Driver etiquette is the real differentiator between the >> > U.S. and Germany. A German won’t say, “I’m driving the >> > speed limit so screw you, go around.” Germans, like other >> > Europeans, understand they have a civic responsibility. >> > Too many Americans reject civic responsibility as being >> > “against freedom” and “un-American.” The closest parallel >> > in the U.S. to how the Germans behave is the Mormon >> > population, which places a very high premium on civic >> > responsibility, public dignity, decency, the idea of body >> > politic as one functioning unit. The concept of the Hive >> > (ergo, Chuck’s Beehive). >> > >> > -Patrick >> > >> > *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> > *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2015 4:32 PM >> > *To:* af <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> <mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>> >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >> > >> > What's right for one country, isn't necessarily right for >> > another. While I would love to be able to drive as fast I >> > think is safe, knowing how the typical American drives, >> > I'd guess that it would be far more deadly here than in >> > Germany. I suspect the same logic applies to other stuff >> > to some extent. >> > >> > On Oct 10, 2015 11:05 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" >> > <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> <mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>> wrote: >> > >> > Countrys with weak gun control have more shot people. >> > Simple logic in my eyes. >> > >> > Nothing to say against if the majority of a country >> > takes this into account. Just strange in >> > >> > the eyes of a foreign citizen. >> > >> > In my country you can buy a BMW and drive as fast as >> > you think it is ok on highways. >> > >> > this kills, too. Same arguments here. It is the >> > freedom to drive. >> > >> > *Von:*Af [mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>] *Im Auftrag von >> *Mike >> > Hammett >> > *Gesendet:* Samstag, 10. Oktober 2015 16:47 >> > *An:* [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> <mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> > *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >> > >> > Except that most mass shootings are done with weapons >> > that were obtained in circumstances that even the most >> > strict of control laws would allow. The weapons >> > painted as being so evil just plain aren't used in >> > these situations. >> > >> > Logic doesn't lead you to gun control. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > http://www.ics-il.com >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > *From: *"Darin Steffl" <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>> >> > *To: *[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> <mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> > *Sent: *Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:12:08 AM >> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >> > >> > I carry a .380 pistol with me most of the time but I >> > only own three guns myself. I also consider myself to >> > have many Democratic views when it comes to gun policy >> > and Republican views with taxes & business aspects. >> > >> > I personally think it should be MUCH harder to >> > purchase a firearm than it is. When I purchased my new >> > glock, I ordered it online at Gander Mountain and >> > walked into the store, they did a quick background >> > check and I walked out in 10 minutes. It was great to >> > me as a consumer and easy. BUT, what if I was angry or >> > in the heat of the moment and wanted to harm people. >> > Now that easy gun purchase allowed me to walk out the >> > same day with a deadly weapon. >> > >> > I do not think our government is trying to take guns >> > away as the crazy Republicans like to lie about. I do >> > think we should have much stricter gun control though >> > to keep the nutty people from having easy access. All >> > that is going to do is make it take longer to purchase >> > a legal firearm, which I am perfectly fine with if it >> > prevents even one shooting death or mass shooting. >> > >> > If there's other policies being proposed that can help >> > limit access to guns, I'm all for it if it still >> > allows me to purchase a pistol to carry legally and a >> > shotgun to go hunting. I don't believe I should be >> > allowed to own a machine gun type weapon for use at my >> > home. Weapons like that should be allowed only at >> > shooting ranges and locked up under heavy security. >> > They do not belong at a residential home anywhere for >> > sport or home protection. >> > >> > So anyway, I think there are gun nuts out there that >> > like to walk around while open carrying and say Obama >> > is trying to steal all our guns. I think they're crazy >> > and need a bonk on the head to come to your senses. >> > Try acting normal and conceal your weapon, don't talk >> > like a crazy gun nut and try to realize you don't need >> > a machine gun. >> > >> > The government's job is to protect as many citizens as >> > possible. That means more laws, more enforcement, and >> > more compliance. We can't easily identify and stop all >> > people who will commit a shooting crime. We can more >> > easily target guns themselves and prevent the sale of >> > them to as many "bad" people as possible. For "good" >> > and legal people who want to buy one, stop complaining >> > about gun control and embrace it in order to help save >> > lives. Gun control isn't meant for good people, only >> > the bad people. You'll still be able to buy any weapon >> > you "need" in order to hunt or protect your home. >> > >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Gino Villarini >> > <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> <mailto: >> [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>> >> wrote: >> > >> > Freedom is not the exercise to choose whatever you >> > want. Heck then free all the child molesters! >> > Human beings need to be controlled, that the whole >> > reasoning behind laws. Im with Jaime and Stefan on >> > this. >> > >> > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Mike Hammett >> > <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> <mailto: >> [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>> >> wrote: >> > >> > There are many items that kill more humans >> > than first world guns. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > http://www.ics-il.com >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>> >> > *To: *[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> <mailto:[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> > *Sent: *Friday, October 9, 2015 11:21:43 PM >> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >> > >> > Looking at this with a foreign view I can't >> > understand this "gun love" in US. It is not >> > all about the criminals or idiots. Just look >> > at the statistics for accidents with weapons. >> > The only way to save lifes is to be very >> > restrictive. If someone wants to shoot he can >> > go to a shooting club and leave the weapon >> > there. It is not freedom to have a gun at >> > home. It is silly esp. with kids around. >> > >> > You can't avoid killing with banning weapons >> > but you can reduce it. If I need a weapon I >> > call for police or security. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Darin Steffl >> > >> > Minnesota WiFi >> > >> > www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/> >> > >> > 507-634-WiFi >> > >> > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on >> > Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> > This footnote confirms that this email message has been >> > scanned by >> > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, >> > vandals & computer viruses. >> > >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> > This footnote confirms that this email message has been >> > scanned by >> > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, >> > vandals & computer viruses. >> > >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> > >> > >> > >> >>
