Well, not necessarily.  It is possible to turn grounding and shielding into a 
religion and lose track of what they are accomplishing.

For example, the power company guy in up in the bucket doesn’t rely on 
grounding to protect him from high voltage, and neither do the birds sitting on 
the wires.  I’m not saying TJ is right, but be careful of adding more grounding 
without thinking about what you are grounding, to what, and why.

I also wonder if Gino is seeing this everywhere, or just at a few towers.  I 
think some towers have problems and you can’t fix it without going beyond just 
your equipment.

If it’s everywhere, did this coincide with a change to a different brand/model 
of radios?

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:06 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

If what you've done isn't working, then it isn't enough, not that it's too much.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "TJ Trout" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:04:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?


Gino, 

Try not grounding at all?



On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:39 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote:

  I have no doubt it's the SS clamping that's blowing the fuse. If there was no 
fuse, I bet the SS would continue clamping and start smoking if there's enough 
current to supply it. I don't know if it helps save things, but I'm leaning 
towards yes. Just getting all of the radios on the same DC bus seems to have 
helped quite a bit as well.

  On 10/25/2015 12:51 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

    Speaking of fuses, I know sometimes we get overcurrent trips on CTMs and 
SyncInjectors and have to reset them.  Very rare, but always during storms. It 
is possible this is saving radios, I can't say for sure.


    -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup
    Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 12:34 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

    One thing we've been doing for several years now is a bonding wire up
    the tower. I do not trust the tower steel/leg joints being low enough
    resistance. Failure rate went way down. DC and fuses doesn't hurt either.

    On 10/25/2015 10:57 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

      So we are loosing radios left and right due to lightning!

      Typical site setup:

      Radios on tower grounded to tower

      Shielded cable

      Shielded patch panel - grounded

      Regular cat5 jumpers

      Wbmfg SS - grounded

      Regular cat5 jumpers

      Poe device

      What's wrong?









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