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Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
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> On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Well, not necessarily.  It is possible to turn grounding and shielding into a 
> religion and lose track of what they are accomplishing.
>  
> For example, the power company guy in up in the bucket doesn’t rely on 
> grounding to protect him from high voltage, and neither do the birds sitting 
> on the wires.  I’m not saying TJ is right, but be careful of adding more 
> grounding without thinking about what you are grounding, to what, and why.
>  
> I also wonder if Gino is seeing this everywhere, or just at a few towers.  I 
> think some towers have problems and you can’t fix it without going beyond 
> just your equipment.
>  
> If it’s everywhere, did this coincide with a change to a different 
> brand/model of radios?
>  
> From: Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:06 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?
>  
> If what you've done isn't working, then it isn't enough, not that it's too 
> much.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> From: "TJ Trout" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:04:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?
> 
> Gino, 
>  
> Try not grounding at all?
>  
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:39 PM, George Skorup <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
>> I have no doubt it's the SS clamping that's blowing the fuse. If there was 
>> no fuse, I bet the SS would continue clamping and start smoking if there's 
>> enough current to supply it. I don't know if it helps save things, but I'm 
>> leaning towards yes. Just getting all of the radios on the same DC bus seems 
>> to have helped quite a bit as well.
>> 
>> On 10/25/2015 12:51 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> Speaking of fuses, I know sometimes we get overcurrent trips on CTMs and 
>>> SyncInjectors and have to reset them.  Very rare, but always during storms. 
>>> It is possible this is saving radios, I can't say for sure.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 12:34 PM
>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?
>>> 
>>> One thing we've been doing for several years now is a bonding wire up
>>> the tower. I do not trust the tower steel/leg joints being low enough
>>> resistance. Failure rate went way down. DC and fuses doesn't hurt either.
>>> 
>>> On 10/25/2015 10:57 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>>> So we are loosing radios left and right due to lightning!
>>>> 
>>>> Typical site setup:
>>>> 
>>>> Radios on tower grounded to tower
>>>> 
>>>> Shielded cable
>>>> 
>>>> Shielded patch panel - grounded
>>>> 
>>>> Regular cat5 jumpers
>>>> 
>>>> Wbmfg SS - grounded
>>>> 
>>>> Regular cat5 jumpers
>>>> 
>>>> Poe device
>>>> 
>>>> What's wrong?

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