I see the big telcos build a kind of shield above/around their installations. 
Big poles connected with thick grounding cables on the edges.

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Von: Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> 
Datum: 25.10.2015  23:37  (GMT+01:00) 
An: [email protected] 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong? 




Well, not necessarily.  It is possible to turn grounding and shielding 
into a religion and lose track of what they are accomplishing.
 
For example, the power company guy in up in the bucket doesn’t rely on 
grounding to protect him from high voltage, and neither do the birds sitting on 
the wires.  I’m not saying TJ is right, but be careful of adding more 
grounding without thinking about what you are grounding, to what, and why.
 
I also wonder if Gino is seeing this everywhere, or just at a few 
towers.  I think some towers have problems and you can’t fix it without 
going beyond just your equipment.
 
If it’s everywhere, did this coincide with a change to a different 
brand/model of radios?
 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:06 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing 
wrong?
 

If 
what you've done isn't working, then it isn't enough, not that it's too 
much.




-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent 
Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




From: 
"TJ Trout" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 
Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:04:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site 
Grounding - what we are doing wrong?


Gino, 
 
Try not grounding at all?
 
 

 
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:39 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote:

I 
  have no doubt it's the SS clamping that's blowing the fuse. If there was no 
  fuse, I bet the SS would continue clamping and start smoking if there's 
enough 
  current to supply it. I don't know if it helps save things, but I'm leaning 
  towards yes. Just getting all of the radios on the same DC bus seems to have 
  helped quite a bit as well.

On 10/25/2015 12:51 PM, Ken Hohhof 
  wrote:

  Speaking 
    of fuses, I know sometimes we get overcurrent trips on CTMs and 
    SyncInjectors and have to reset them.  Very rare, but always during 
    storms. It is possible this is saving radios, I can't say for 
    sure.


-----Original Message----- From: George 
    Skorup
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 
    [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

One 
    thing we've been doing for several years now is a bonding wire up
the 
    tower. I do not trust the tower steel/leg joints being low 
    enough
resistance. Failure rate went way down. DC and fuses doesn't hurt 
    either.

On 10/25/2015 10:57 AM, Gino Villarini 
wrote:

    So 
      we are loosing radios left and right due to lightning!

Typical site 
      setup:

Radios on tower grounded to tower

Shielded 
      cable

Shielded patch panel - grounded

Regular cat5 
      jumpers

Wbmfg SS - grounded

Regular cat5 jumpers

Poe 
      device

What's 
  wrong?






 
 

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