Yep, those are direct replacements... basically the same thing, just a bit
more powerful hardware. Sounds to me like the hEX would be perfect here.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> We have used the RB750G or RB750 for a business demarc device.  Often with
> a routed /29 on the customer side (business IT guys are trained to ask for
> 5 public IPs whether they need them or not).
>
> I think the hEX and hEX Lite are the replacements for those.
>
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 11:49 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CPE Mikrotik
>
> We bridge to the router. The 2011 are all big. I only need a couple ports
> at most available to the customer on the business side in most cases as
> they have their own firewall, I would just like the CPE router (not CPE
> radio) to be able to be a part of our L3 network when the need arises. this
> is more a demarc device on those business customers, for managed routers on
> our contract support customers we do Fortigate UTMs. I dont mind two
> devices to keep the separation between church and state. Contract services
> is a component that could leave our jurisdiction and I dont want to have
> taken liberties on the ISP network that would conflict with a third party
> IT taking over
>
> An example business customer im dealing with right now is a bank. they
> have 3 branches on our network A B C and two off our network D and E. We
> are their contract IT also.
>
> A B and C have us as their primary provider, A is their main branch. D
> have a cable connection with a DSL backup as well as a PtP t1 to A. E has
> cable/dsl as well. A B and C are all on our PmP wireless network for all
> intents and purposes (we have them on pmp solutions until saturation then
> move them to PtP), and we are turning up a 3rd party ptp fiber circuit
> between A and our NOC (they use our IP space). Our wireless having more
> capacity than the fiber contract.
>
> Their main branch, A gets to our noc via a licensed hop then an air fiber,
> each of those have backup 5ghz link. There is also an alt path on our
> network from the licensed link via another licensed link to our second
> provider (no bgp at present) and i am putting in an EOIP tunnel from
> provider 2 back to provider 1 to be able to keep their IP space in play(it
> is what it is). So in essence they have three paths to egress with multiple
> redundancies.
>
> I am planning on MPLS between their three on network sites, hence the need
> for demarcation between us and their fortigates.
>
> If I can do this with a 50 dollar router that we keep on hand for
> residential CPE as well, that makes me happy.
>
>
> Is this convoluted enough?
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We use RB951G-2HnD.  Yes it costs a few bucks more, but it’s worth it to
>> stock one router, and it has been very reliable.  If we were going through
>> boatloads of them, I guess we might look at stocking more models to save a
>> few bucks.
>>
>> For businesses that need more wired ports, or installations where we
>> think we need external antennas, we use RB2011UiAS-2HnD-N.  We also have a
>> few CRS125 models out there, like as a demarc for multiple tenants.
>>
>> I am debating whether to look at the new Cambium models, mainly to get an
>> 802.11ac product, but integrating the POE and ATA functions would simplify
>> wiring for residential customers.  Just not sure it would let us manage the
>> VoIP function the way we like, also not sure I want to give up the outboard
>> POE with surge protection.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 10:38 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CPE Mikrotik
>>
>> Router?  Rb2011 are great and about $100.  The 951 is cheaper for the
>> residents.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> back looking at a cpe mikrotik, I would prefer to stock one unit for
>>> residential and business customers, I just dont know what can actually
>>> handle what reliably.
>>>
>>> For the residential side, not much more than the equivalent of a ubnt
>>> air router, at that price point, i think at one point we were paying 29 a
>>> piece for 20 packs or something to that effect, i dont know if thats still
>>> accurate.
>>>
>>> on the business customer side it may need to participate in OSPF and
>>> MPLS/EOIP, wireless not being required.
>>>
>>> I would prefer Gigabit Ethernet, SPF not a requirement for the standard
>>> drop device.
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
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