In my previous life, we liked the 450G with the plain unlabeled case
from Baltic Networks and wall mount brackets. It seemed people were
less likely to play around with a black box mounted on the wall than
with a desktop router.
On 10/26/2015 12:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
We have used the RB750G or RB750 for a business demarc device. Often
with a routed /29 on the customer side (business IT guys are trained
to ask for 5 public IPs whether they need them or not).
I think the hEX and hEX Lite are the replacements for those.
*From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 11:49 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CPE Mikrotik
We bridge to the router. The 2011 are all big. I only need a couple
ports at most available to the customer on the business side in most
cases as they have their own firewall, I would just like the CPE
router (not CPE radio) to be able to be a part of our L3 network when
the need arises. this is more a demarc device on those business
customers, for managed routers on our contract support customers we do
Fortigate UTMs. I dont mind two devices to keep the separation between
church and state. Contract services is a component that could leave
our jurisdiction and I dont want to have taken liberties on the ISP
network that would conflict with a third party IT taking over
An example business customer im dealing with right now is a bank. they
have 3 branches on our network A B C and two off our network D and E.
We are their contract IT also.
A B and C have us as their primary provider, A is their main branch. D
have a cable connection with a DSL backup as well as a PtP t1 to A. E
has cable/dsl as well. A B and C are all on our PmP wireless network
for all intents and purposes (we have them on pmp solutions until
saturation then move them to PtP), and we are turning up a 3rd party
ptp fiber circuit between A and our NOC (they use our IP space). Our
wireless having more capacity than the fiber contract.
Their main branch, A gets to our noc via a licensed hop then an air
fiber, each of those have backup 5ghz link. There is also an alt path
on our network from the licensed link via another licensed link to our
second provider (no bgp at present) and i am putting in an EOIP tunnel
from provider 2 back to provider 1 to be able to keep their IP space
in play(it is what it is). So in essence they have three paths to
egress with multiple redundancies.
I am planning on MPLS between their three on network sites, hence the
need for demarcation between us and their fortigates.
If I can do this with a 50 dollar router that we keep on hand for
residential CPE as well, that makes me happy.
Is this convoluted enough?
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We use RB951G-2HnD. Yes it costs a few bucks more, but it’s worth
it to stock one router, and it has been very reliable. If we were
going through boatloads of them, I guess we might look at stocking
more models to save a few bucks.
For businesses that need more wired ports, or installations where
we think we need external antennas, we use RB2011UiAS-2HnD-N. We
also have a few CRS125 models out there, like as a demarc for
multiple tenants.
I am debating whether to look at the new Cambium models, mainly to
get an 802.11ac product, but integrating the POE and ATA functions
would simplify wiring for residential customers. Just not sure it
would let us manage the VoIP function the way we like, also not
sure I want to give up the outboard POE with surge protection.
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 10:38 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CPE Mikrotik
Router? Rb2011 are great and about $100. The 951 is cheaper for
the residents.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
back looking at a cpe mikrotik, I would prefer to stock one
unit for residential and business customers, I just dont know
what can actually handle what reliably.
For the residential side, not much more than the equivalent of
a ubnt air router, at that price point, i think at one point
we were paying 29 a piece for 20 packs or something to that
effect, i dont know if thats still accurate.
on the business customer side it may need to participate in
OSPF and MPLS/EOIP, wireless not being required.
I would prefer Gigabit Ethernet, SPF not a requirement for the
standard drop device.
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