It does, but no wireless... I was just talking about the 951 series. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
> hEX claims to have gigabit ports (successor to RB750G). > http://routerboard.com/RB750Gr2 > > > *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 6:50 PM > *To:* af <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CPE Mikrotik > > MSRP is only $79.95 on those... and I see a couple places selling them for > well under MSRP. > > The RB951G-2HnD appears to be the only one with GigE... if you don't care > about that, then there's the RB951Ui-2HnD and RB951Ui-2nD (hAP). The H > seems to mean they have high power wireless, Ui means they have PoE out (on > one port) and G means gigabit. The hAP is smaller for factor (same as an > RB750), but the other two both appear to have the same slightly larger case. > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Thats what I want, footprintish of a smartjack >> >> Trying to even find these mikrotiks is beginning to frustrate me, the >> same model number appears to be different products both in form and spec >> between vendors. The cheapest our purchaser has been quoted from our normal >> vendors on RB951G-2HND is 90 bucks >> >> >> I wonder if you could do something like this metarouter thing for unused >> ports on a demarc unit that just redirects all traffic on those ports to a >> rickroll >> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> When using it as a demarc for a small business, we mounted it to the >>> wall and labeled it “ISP Demarc” with ISP name on Eth1 and customer name on >>> Eth2. Similar to a SmartJack shelf or an IAD. People look at a 751 and >>> think it’s a jack or a modem, not a router anyway. We also put a sticker >>> on it “Property of <ISP>”. >>> >>> The problem is computer consultants, in fact I just got off the phone >>> with one having a hissy fit because we replaced a Frontier DSL modem with a >>> managed RB2011 and he insists on being able to make changes. I told him >>> the customer is welcome to have you put in a router/firewall for them and >>> then you can manage it, but not our managed router. It also drives guys >>> installing things like security cameras and POS terminals crazy they can’t >>> just bring up a web GUI on 192.168.1.1 and guess the password. We turn off >>> all IP services except Winbox. >>> >>> To the computer consultants, it can be a real turf issue. I don’t see >>> why. The customer can pay them to install and manage a router, that’s >>> money in their pocket. In some cases I think the subtext is they are >>> getting kickbacks for recommending ISPs and don’t like the customer >>> ordering service directly from one of the ISPs that doesn’t kick back a >>> commission or recurring revenue. I sometimes wonder if even the telcos do >>> this, otherwise I can’t figure out why some of the computer guys recommend >>> Frontier. >>> >>> >>> *From:* Adam Moffett <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 1:51 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CPE Mikrotik >>> >>> In my previous life, we liked the 450G with the plain unlabeled case >>> from Baltic Networks and wall mount brackets. It seemed people were less >>> likely to play around with a black box mounted on the wall than with a >>> desktop router. >>> >>> On 10/26/2015 12:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> We have used the RB750G or RB750 for a business demarc device. Often >>> with a routed /29 on the customer side (business IT guys are trained to ask >>> for 5 public IPs whether they need them or not). >>> >>> I think the hEX and hEX Lite are the replacements for those. >>> >>> >>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 11:49 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CPE Mikrotik >>> >>> We bridge to the router. The 2011 are all big. I only need a couple >>> ports at most available to the customer on the business side in most cases >>> as they have their own firewall, I would just like the CPE router (not CPE >>> radio) to be able to be a part of our L3 network when the need arises. this >>> is more a demarc device on those business customers, for managed routers on >>> our contract support customers we do Fortigate UTMs. I dont mind two >>> devices to keep the separation between church and state. Contract services >>> is a component that could leave our jurisdiction and I dont want to have >>> taken liberties on the ISP network that would conflict with a third party >>> IT taking over >>> >>> An example business customer im dealing with right now is a bank. they >>> have 3 branches on our network A B C and two off our network D and E. We >>> are their contract IT also. >>> >>> A B and C have us as their primary provider, A is their main branch. D >>> have a cable connection with a DSL backup as well as a PtP t1 to A. E has >>> cable/dsl as well. A B and C are all on our PmP wireless network for all >>> intents and purposes (we have them on pmp solutions until saturation then >>> move them to PtP), and we are turning up a 3rd party ptp fiber circuit >>> between A and our NOC (they use our IP space). Our wireless having more >>> capacity than the fiber contract. >>> >>> Their main branch, A gets to our noc via a licensed hop then an air >>> fiber, each of those have backup 5ghz link. There is also an alt path on >>> our network from the licensed link via another licensed link to our second >>> provider (no bgp at present) and i am putting in an EOIP tunnel from >>> provider 2 back to provider 1 to be able to keep their IP space in play(it >>> is what it is). So in essence they have three paths to egress with multiple >>> redundancies. >>> >>> I am planning on MPLS between their three on network sites, hence the >>> need for demarcation between us and their fortigates. >>> >>> If I can do this with a 50 dollar router that we keep on hand for >>> residential CPE as well, that makes me happy. >>> >>> >>> Is this convoluted enough? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> We use RB951G-2HnD. Yes it costs a few bucks more, but it’s worth it >>>> to stock one router, and it has been very reliable. If we were going >>>> through boatloads of them, I guess we might look at stocking more models to >>>> save a few bucks. >>>> >>>> For businesses that need more wired ports, or installations where we >>>> think we need external antennas, we use RB2011UiAS-2HnD-N. We also have a >>>> few CRS125 models out there, like as a demarc for multiple tenants. >>>> >>>> I am debating whether to look at the new Cambium models, mainly to get >>>> an 802.11ac product, but integrating the POE and ATA functions would >>>> simplify wiring for residential customers. Just not sure it would let us >>>> manage the VoIP function the way we like, also not sure I want to give up >>>> the outboard POE with surge protection. >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 10:38 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CPE Mikrotik >>>> >>>> Router? Rb2011 are great and about $100. The 951 is cheaper for the >>>> residents. >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> back looking at a cpe mikrotik, I would prefer to stock one unit for >>>>> residential and business customers, I just dont know what can actually >>>>> handle what reliably. >>>>> >>>>> For the residential side, not much more than the equivalent of a ubnt >>>>> air router, at that price point, i think at one point we were paying 29 a >>>>> piece for 20 packs or something to that effect, i dont know if thats still >>>>> accurate. >>>>> >>>>> on the business customer side it may need to participate in OSPF and >>>>> MPLS/EOIP, wireless not being required. >>>>> >>>>> I would prefer Gigabit Ethernet, SPF not a requirement for the >>>>> standard drop device. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > >
