I could do a few hundred users on an Intel Atom with a decent SSD... Seriously...
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote: > Seven servers (yes, I know they are VMs), as awesome as Zimbra may be, is > a little ridiculous for a few hundred users. > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have a few hundred mailboxes. >> >> I don't really have much for user support issues. I've had to revoke >> accounts a couple times from users that kept handing out their password >> like it was candy at a parade. No real forgotten password problems. Setup >> just works. Hack attempts are shut down before they even try valid >> credentials. >> >> I'm running a seven server Zimbra cluster. Whenever I can get a little >> bit of time, it'll be geo and network diverse (separate cluster for all but >> mailboxes elsewhere with the mailboxes coming in about a year). It will be >> up to about 14 servers by then. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:29:00 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube >> >> How many thousands of users do you have? Running the service is pretty >> cheap. I built my own sendmail+Dovecot system which was really cheap. Then >> I got to a place where I didn't want my time tied up with that so we went >> to Magicmail which was still pretty cheap. Through all of it it was the >> support that was the big dollar sign. If you set expectations differently >> maybe yours would be cheaper. All I know is I spent a lot of user tech >> support time on it. More than anything else by far. Kind of a hidden >> expense but definitely still there. We had, I think, 8000 users on the >> system when we sold. Maybe a couple hundred domains. >> >> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 8:11 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> What are people doing that's so expensive? I could have 10x - 50x the >>> number of mailboxes as I have and it wouldn't cost me any more than it does >>> now, other than some disks.... which aren't expensive. >>> >>> I guess I would probably move from the community version to the service >>> provider version, but at that point that's under $0.20/mailbox/month. Not >>> really a major expense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:08:29 AM >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube >>> >>> For me it wasn't about difficulty it was about expense. Email, at least >>> how we did it, was a cost center not a profit center. I kept it until I >>> sold and wish I would have ditched it much sooner. It was by far the >>> biggest tech support PITA. >>> >>> I did learn afterward that the longer someone has an email address the >>> more they are willing to pay to keep it. I have been raising he fee we >>> charge to use those old emails. I am now at $250 a year for a single email >>> and I have people begging me not to cut it off. I am still going to, but I >>> think it is interesting since I used to give it away. >>> >>> I guess what I am saying is that if you do not charge a decent amount >>> for it, why do it? The there is the whole minimum volume to be profitable >>> thing that comes into play. I just would not keep doing something that >>> doesn't make money. If it does, more power to you. >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 7:18 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> There seems to be two camps. One where people are running away form >>>> their own e-mail servers and then those that embrace it. I haven't found >>>> e-mail to be that difficult to manage. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>>> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Chuck Hogg" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, November 5, 2015 6:01:35 AM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Roundcube >>>> >>>> >>>> I hope you are charging handsomely for email. We just quit it for our >>>> customer base...and only had 2-3 complaints. Everyone already has an email >>>> address. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Any tips of tricks for success with using Roundcube to provide webmail >>>>> to individual end users (not a single domain corporate environment)? >>>>> >>>>> Server side is postfix + spamassassin + dovecot. >>>>> >>>>> I have a successful 'test' setup of roundcube running in a VM doing >>>>> TLSv1.2 on smtp and imap, logged into several user accounts on test >>>>> domains >>>>> on the dovecot server. >>>>> >>>>> Wondering if anyone has run into hiccups or weird things when using >>>>> roundcube in a production environment. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >
