I'm not sure anyone thinks that going into Iraq in the first place was a good decision, at this point...
I've always thought Kurdistan should at least be independent, but Turkey won't let that happen... On Nov 15, 2015 10:30 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> wrote: > Stay out of politics is what I meant > On Nov 15, 2015 9:28 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Whoa. I want to stay out but Bush got us into Iraq when Afghanistan was >> were we needed to be all along. Even his dad has stated that and facts >> have shown this was a mistake plus helped leave vacuum filled by Isil ....I >> take this very personally as my son served in Iraq and tells me it was >> wrong. Now he is in and out of hospital and rehab clinics dealing with >> PTSD and other symptoms. Obama inherited this mess. No easy solution >> when dealing with fanatics...any kind....look at KKK and other hate groups >> here in USA. Its a tough reality. God bless us all. >> On Nov 15, 2015 9:18 AM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I have to agree... even if we had stayed in Iraq, there wouldn't be a >>> stable democracy, it just isn't going to work in that part of the world. >>> Six brutal dictators probably would be just about the only way to stabilize >>> the mess. Either that, or we go back and occupy it... forever, which I >>> don't think many people would want to do. >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I am no Obama or Hillary fan but I don't think staying would have been >>>> all that different in the end. Everyone has failed at peace in the middle >>>> East. Everyone will fail. I honestly don't understand why everyone keeps >>>> trying. In my opinion the best thing is what you mentioned. >>>> We should get with Russia, since they have the inside line on >>>> dictators, and find about six really brutal people to take over the middle >>>> East. Judging from our Iran experiment we could get maybe forty years of >>>> peace. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 7:53 AM Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> We had our chance to stop it in Iraq, we cut and run. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And you are right, we didn’t do the right bombing in Vietnam to stop >>>>> that war. And what Ford did at the end is the lesson Obama should have >>>>> learned which could have prevented much of what happened in the Middle >>>>> East >>>>> including ISIS. Apparently they didn’t teach history to at Harvard. >>>>> Imagine the influence a multi-cultural and stable Iraqi government would >>>>> have had on the region. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rory >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:31 AM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis >>>>> français >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Collateral damage is highly underrated. Vietnam had no wholesale >>>>> bombing like WWII. that is one reason Vietnam, and the rest of these >>>>> conflicts, last so long. >>>>> >>>>> The horror of war has to be brought to everyone, including those >>>>> making the decisions, to bring it to an end. >>>>> >>>>> But having said that, this Muslim extremists movement has been been >>>>> going on for about 700 years so it may be to much to expect to be out of >>>>> war again. There may be a lull, but I think the entire world has been >>>>> drawn >>>>> into the middle East quagmire. >>>>> >>>>> The primary cause damn sure isn't a two degrees warming tend in a >>>>> couple decades. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 7:05 AM Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The problem is that they are basically imbedded with civilians. How >>>>> do you kill them without taking out everyone else. That is the problem we >>>>> have had all along. Door-to-door warfare is all that you can do but it’s >>>>> also the most dangerous for our soldiers and nobody is going to allow >>>>> wholesale bombing like Nixon did in Vietnam. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We also burned a lot of good will in all the countries we need to do >>>>> this with when we got the local civilians to act as translators and >>>>> informants and abandoned them after the war, the highest profile of them >>>>> the doctor in Pakistan. Even he is still in jail years later but the >>>>> reality is, nobody trusts us any more in those regions. We are not a >>>>> reliable ally. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rory >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:06 AM >>>>> *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis >>>>> français >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> as much as i hate war and killing....I agree we need to make a parking >>>>> lot out of them... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>> >>>>> Wireless Systems Architect >>>>> >>>>> 915-861-1390 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The more of this that happens, the more the rest of the world will >>>>> unite to rub them out. I am a hopeless optimist. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:52 AM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis >>>>> français >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes. I am praying for them and the world. What a tragedy.. It is >>>>> beyond barbaric..its evil for the sake of evil. >>>>> >>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 13, 2015 10:15 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Oui , et pas seulement cela , nos cœurs et nos prières pour tous ceux >>>>> qui sont touchés par cette Sensless actes brabaric . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>> >>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>> >>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From: *"Patrick Leary" <[email protected]> >>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]>, "Telrad List" < >>>>> [email protected]>, [email protected], [email protected] >>>>> *Sent: *Friday, November 13, 2015 7:46:29 PM >>>>> *Subject: *[WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français >>>>> >>>>> Tonght, chaque personne libre est un Parisien. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Patrick Leary >>>>> >>>>> Telrad >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ************************************************************************************ >>>>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>>>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>>>> computer viruses. >>>>> >>>>> ************************************************************************************ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>
