Food, water, shelter, medicine. The things anyone and everyone need to survive.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote: > Since when has it been a basic human right? Where does it stop? Why are > others forced to pay for peoples bad habits? Other than congenital defects, > and some accidents, most health problems are due to peoples choices. If our > money is to be confiscated to pay for everyone's "human right", don't we > get a say in how they live? How many other human rights are being trampled > on then? > > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Should medicine really be part of a system of supply and demand? I'd >> agree on the whole hotel thing - you don't have to stay there - but when >> you have some medical condition (and while yes AIDS is something you can >> certainly avoid) I think as a society and a culture we shouldn't deny a >> basic human right. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I can't defend his brashness, but the fact remains that pure capitalism >>> is the best way demonstrated to date to innovate and health care or pharma >>> is not exempt. Big rewards encourage big effort yielding big results. These >>> pharma companies have something like 7 years until the exclusivity period >>> expires. That can be a pretty short time to recover investments. This >>> particular case may be a bit extreme but to say that capitalism is broken >>> in America is simply ludicrous. >>> >>> I recently attended my sons graduation from Texas Tech on a Friday. >>> Thursday night at the hotel was $159 and Friday was $269. I don't think >>> that is price gouging. I think it is a reflection of the simple fact that >>> there are fewer rooms available on that particular night than are demanded >>> at $159. The equilibrium was found at $259 where supply and demand come >>> closer to being equal. At that price I still witnessed people turned away >>> wanting a room due to their poor planning. I don't think that is price >>> gouging. Their hotel was full at $269 a night. The next day was $159 again. >>> Since the hotel was full they probably could have been even higher. >>> >>> I really don't understand what people have such a huge issue with the >>> fundamental theory of supply and demand. Yes I understand that it is a >>> potentially life saving drug. There are other cheaper treatments. Maybe >>> they aren't as good, which is why they are cheaper. When did we stop >>> rewarding people for the value they provide? I know this jerk didn't invent >>> it but he obviously was willing to reward those who did with a price they >>> thought fair. Sales over the next few years will prove if he made a mistake. >>> >>> Why not force Chuck to sell a unique mount he made for 5% over cost? >>> Heck, why not only cover his cost? Why not less than cost and force him to >>> provide his great product for the good of the people? There is a reason it >>> is named Animal Farm. How many have read this book? While not about >>> capitalism it does speak to the kind of central control that skulks below >>> the overt argument for "controlling" this type of behavior. >>> >>> I know people might die. I'll put on my really jerky hat and say "so >>> what?". People die every day for less meaning and in greater numbers. There >>> is practically a mass suicide movement going on now with texting and >>> driving. I don't see where people value there lives or others that much >>> anyway when reading a text or email is more important than life itself. >>> I guess I am just a big libertarian at heart. Give me the loose >>> framework of a "fair market", whatever that is, and let the system fight it >>> out. The word isn't fair, not ever going to be fair, stop trying to warp it >>> to be that way. >>> >>> Have fun with that on a Friday and have a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanuka, >>> or whatever else gets your boat floating. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 8:02 AM Patrick Leary <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The irony? Your local poor schlub a-hole can be arrested and charged if >>>> he doubles the price of gas, water, or other life-critical goods after a >>>> natural disaster – that’s a crime in America. Meanwhile, it’s completely >>>> legal for a company to raise a life-critical drug by over 5000% -- that’s >>>> capitalism in America. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Shkreli is only the most written about example. This “business trend’ >>>> is all the rage and has been widely employed in the U.S. for a number of >>>> years now. >>>> http://news.health.com/2015/09/25/6-insane-examples-of-prescription-drug-price-increases/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:28 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - Martin Shkreli >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Apparently this guy AND HIS LAWYER were arrested today. Everybody >>>> knows him as the guy who raises drug prices 5000%, but I did not know he >>>> live streams almost daily to his fans. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Watch the first video, isn't he just like every annoying, entitled, >>>> slacker kid living in his parents basement that we have to deal with >>>> bitching about his Internet? Except he is CEO of a drug company. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I didn't think it was possible to hate him more, but watch the video. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8gjB1PSXv_oAUSAQ16S0fA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ************************************************************************************ >>>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>>> computer viruses. >>>> >>>> ************************************************************************************ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ************************************************************************************ >>>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>>> computer viruses. >>>> >>>> ************************************************************************************ >>>> >>>> >> >
