but it's not shipping yet, is it?

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Keefe John <[email protected]> wrote:

> it was already launched
>
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> On 12/21/2015 7:52 PM, Jeremy wrote:
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> At launch?
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> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Keefe John <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> When will the 5AC-PRISM be DFS approved?
>>
>> On 12/21/2015 7:04 PM, Jeremy wrote:
>>
>> Quick turnaround on the unlock codes.  This thread reminded me that I
>> still needed a code for AC Powerbeams.  I filled out the form and they
>> arrived four days later (including the weekend).
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Well frustrating day.  We moved channels on ptp while using another
>>> radio to run airview and site survey.   Moved  to 5190 and the other wisp
>>> moved to 5180....Us at 20 and him at 40Mhz...moved to 5275...10 minutes
>>> later he moved to 5265...so I configured  our scanner radio to 8Mhz and
>>> parked it on his center channel.  He moved to 5200 and we got speeds back
>>> up.  Links are close to each other and parallel paths.
>>> On Dec 17, 2015 11:21 AM, "Jeremy" < <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just spent an hour looking for a table like that on the ubnt forums.
>>>> Came back and there it is!  Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Eric Kuhnke < <[email protected]>
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Max Tx power is only 18 or 19 at 64QAM 5/6 on a "M" series 802.11n 2x2
>>>>> ubnt radio anyhow... So it's not a terribly disaster for PTP links.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe they are only +23 when operating in QPSK.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I remember correctly, they it drops to 16 or 17 dbm (from 26)...
>>>>>> so it is a pretty huge drop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:14 AM, John Woodfield <
>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thats all fine and great. The question is how far does it lower the
>>>>>>> TX power.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Woodfield, President
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 410-870-WiFi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: "Mathew Howard" < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm
>>>>>>> To: "af" < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, once you activate the revised UNII rules, it it will lower the
>>>>>>> EIRP in UNII-3, however just upgrading the firmware won't change 
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> (until you enter the key) and you can use the key again to get the 
>>>>>>> higher
>>>>>>> Tx Power back (and disable UNII-1/2)... of course if you lose the link 
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> the power drops, that won't help you... if a link is questionable, I 
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> just try lowering the tx power using test mode to see what happens 
>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>> you do anything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, John Woodfield <
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the new unlock codes and firmware are they still killing the
>>>>>>>> EIRP of the gear even in the UNII3 bands? I've been scared to load it 
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> anything...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John Woodfield, President
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 410-870-WiFi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: "James Craig" < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:29pm
>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>>> There are actually two sets of "DFS" unlocks.  The older unlock is
>>>>>>>> from a few years ago to unlock DFS on RM5/NanoBridge/NanoStation.  
>>>>>>>> Those
>>>>>>>> keys will not unlock PowerBeam/NanoBeam or AC products.
>>>>>>>> NanoBeam/PowerBeamM units will require 5.6.3 + unlock codes
>>>>>>>> generated in the last few months (June 2015).
>>>>>>>> AC products can be unlocked as well, but this is currently only
>>>>>>>> available on 7.2/8.0 beta firmware.  R5AC-PTP and PTMP models are 
>>>>>>>> limited
>>>>>>>> to bands above 5470MHz due to airPrism filtering.  The R5-AC-PRISM will
>>>>>>>> have full U-NII band support.
>>>>>>>> If you need new codes/stickers for PowerBeamM/NanoBeamM or AC
>>>>>>>> products, you can request them here:
>>>>>>>> <https://www.ubnt.com/fcclabelrequest/>
>>>>>>>> https://www.ubnt.com/fcclabelrequest/
>>>>>>>> Please feel free to email me directly if you have any questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, < <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have been using keys with the nanostations with no problem. I
>>>>>>>>> cannot get the powerbeams to work at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Ben Moore < <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, they are...Please check with support team if they are not
>>>>>>>>> showing up for you as could be something to do with the unlock code -
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>>>>>> I will also ask them to chime in here.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, < <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So are powerbeams not capable?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Ben Moore < <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, datasheets are being updated (most are done, just not
>>>>>>>>>> uploaded yet).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, right. that was the case up until airOS 5.6.3 was
>>>>>>>>>>> released... I expect they'll update the data sheets when the radios 
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> shipping with the new firmware.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:11 AM, <
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was just stating what the data sheet says about the US
>>>>>>>>>>>> version versus worldwide version. I know that we have been buying
>>>>>>>>>>>> nanobeams And using them just fine we ordered powerbeams this last 
>>>>>>>>>>>> time and
>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot do anything other than 5725-5850.
>>>>>>>>>>>> <image1.PNG>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You most certainly can use the US radios in 5150-5250, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> whoever said that only the world version supports it is wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to upgrade the firmware to 5.6.3, and enter the
>>>>>>>>>>>> unlock key - which you do need to request from UBNT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Ken Hohhof <
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben, what does “approvals are in” mean?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t give a rat’s ass whether you have approvals in.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to know if I can order equipment for a customer install, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> upgrade to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest released firmware if necessary, and operate it in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5150-5250
>>>>>>>>>>>>> band.  That’s all that matters to me.  Anything else is your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> process to get to what I need, which is a radio I can buy from my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributor and send out with an installer to do a customer 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> install off a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rocket M5 AP we installed 8 months ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I go to the grocery store to buy 2% milk, they don’t tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me the farmer has bought a cow, they either have 2% milk on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shelf or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they don’t.  Status reports on the feeding and milking of the cow 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>> give me something to pour on my cereal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Moore <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:23 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Guys -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The approvals for both lower band and DFS are in.  Same w it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AC gear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Ken Hohhof <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just incredible.  They've been screwing around with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for about 8 months.  Ubiquiti seems to be giving the middle 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finger to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the US market.  I am going to have to look at ripping out some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APs and PTP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links I put up back in April and replacing them with something 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how to explain to a customer that I can't order 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equipment for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their service because my vendor has their head up their ass, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflects badly on me for using their equipment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the world version supports it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ken Hohhof < <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody know if the NBE-M5-19 and PBE-M5-300/400/620
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow 5150-5250 MHz with release firmware now?  And what is the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likelihood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any product I bought from a distributor today would support 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this band out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the box without requesting a key from Ubiquiti?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd think Ubiquiti would have this somewhere, but I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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