Well frustrating day.  We moved channels on ptp while using another radio
to run airview and site survey.   Moved  to 5190 and the other wisp moved
to 5180....Us at 20 and him at 40Mhz...moved to 5275...10 minutes later he
moved to 5265...so I configured  our scanner radio to 8Mhz and parked it on
his center channel.  He moved to 5200 and we got speeds back up.  Links are
close to each other and parallel paths.
On Dec 17, 2015 11:21 AM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I just spent an hour looking for a table like that on the ubnt forums.
> Came back and there it is!  Thanks!
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Max Tx power is only 18 or 19 at 64QAM 5/6 on a "M" series 802.11n 2x2
>> ubnt radio anyhow... So it's not a terribly disaster for PTP links.
>>
>> I believe they are only +23 when operating in QPSK.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If I remember correctly, they it drops to 16 or 17 dbm (from 26)... so
>>> it is a pretty huge drop.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:14 AM, John Woodfield <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thats all fine and great. The question is how far does it lower the TX
>>>> power.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Woodfield, President
>>>>
>>>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>>>
>>>> 410-870-WiFi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm
>>>> To: "af" <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>
>>>> Yes, once you activate the revised UNII rules, it it will lower the
>>>> EIRP in UNII-3, however just upgrading the firmware won't change anything
>>>> (until you enter the key) and you can use the key again to get the higher
>>>> Tx Power back (and disable UNII-1/2)... of course if you lose the link when
>>>> the power drops, that won't help you... if a link is questionable, I would
>>>> just try lowering the tx power using test mode to see what happens before
>>>> you do anything.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, John Woodfield <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> With the new unlock codes and firmware are they still killing the EIRP
>>>>> of the gear even in the UNII3 bands? I've been scared to load it on
>>>>> anything...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John Woodfield, President
>>>>>
>>>>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> 410-870-WiFi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: "James Craig" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:29pm
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>> There are actually two sets of "DFS" unlocks.  The older unlock is
>>>>> from a few years ago to unlock DFS on RM5/NanoBridge/NanoStation.  Those
>>>>> keys will not unlock PowerBeam/NanoBeam or AC products.
>>>>> NanoBeam/PowerBeamM units will require 5.6.3 + unlock codes generated
>>>>> in the last few months (June 2015).
>>>>> AC products can be unlocked as well, but this is currently only
>>>>> available on 7.2/8.0 beta firmware.  R5AC-PTP and PTMP models are limited
>>>>> to bands above 5470MHz due to airPrism filtering.  The R5-AC-PRISM will
>>>>> have full U-NII band support.
>>>>> If you need new codes/stickers for PowerBeamM/NanoBeamM or AC
>>>>> products, you can request them here:
>>>>> https://www.ubnt.com/fcclabelrequest/
>>>>> Please feel free to email me directly if you have any questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We have been using keys with the nanostations with no problem. I
>>>>>> cannot get the powerbeams to work at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Ben Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, they are...Please check with support team if they are not
>>>>>> showing up for you as could be something to do with the unlock code -
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> I will also ask them to chime in here.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So are powerbeams not capable?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Ben Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, datasheets are being updated (most are done, just not uploaded
>>>>>>> yet).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, right. that was the case up until airOS 5.6.3 was released...
>>>>>>>> I expect they'll update the data sheets when the radios are shipping 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the new firmware.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:11 AM, <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was just stating what the data sheet says about the US version
>>>>>>>>> versus worldwide version. I know that we have been buying nanobeams 
>>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>> using them just fine we ordered powerbeams this last time and cannot 
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> anything other than 5725-5850.
>>>>>>>>> <image1.PNG>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You most certainly can use the US radios in 5150-5250, and whoever
>>>>>>>>> said that only the world version supports it is wrong.
>>>>>>>>> You just need to upgrade the firmware to 5.6.3, and enter the
>>>>>>>>> unlock key - which you do need to request from UBNT.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ben, what does “approvals are in” mean?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don’t give a rat’s ass whether you have approvals in.  I want
>>>>>>>>>> to know if I can order equipment for a customer install, upgrade to 
>>>>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>>>>> released firmware if necessary, and operate it in the 5150-5250 band.
>>>>>>>>>> That’s all that matters to me.  Anything else is your internal 
>>>>>>>>>> process to
>>>>>>>>>> get to what I need, which is a radio I can buy from my distributor 
>>>>>>>>>> and send
>>>>>>>>>> out with an installer to do a customer install off a Rocket M5 AP we
>>>>>>>>>> installed 8 months ago.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I go to the grocery store to buy 2% milk, they don’t tell me
>>>>>>>>>> the farmer has bought a cow, they either have 2% milk on the shelf 
>>>>>>>>>> or they
>>>>>>>>>> don’t.  Status reports on the feeding and milking of the cow don’t 
>>>>>>>>>> give me
>>>>>>>>>> something to pour on my cereal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Moore <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:23 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Guys -
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The approvals for both lower band and DFS are in.  Same w it AC
>>>>>>>>>> gear.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is just incredible.  They've been screwing around with this
>>>>>>>>>>> for about 8 months.  Ubiquiti seems to be giving the middle finger 
>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>> US market.  I am going to have to look at ripping out some APs and 
>>>>>>>>>>> PTP
>>>>>>>>>>> links I put up back in April and replacing them with something 
>>>>>>>>>>> else.  I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how to explain to a customer that I can't order 
>>>>>>>>>>> equipment for
>>>>>>>>>>> their service because my vendor has their head up their ass, that 
>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> reflects badly on me for using their equipment.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Only the world version supports it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody know if the NBE-M5-19 and PBE-M5-300/400/620 allow
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5150-5250 MHz with release firmware now?  And what is the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> likelihood any
>>>>>>>>>>>> product I bought from a distributor today would support this band 
>>>>>>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the box without requesting a key from Ubiquiti?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd think Ubiquiti would have this somewhere, but I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> find it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
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