This is great. Thanks for the chart. The problem is that the tx power and dish gain seem to be based on the +3 dB of MIMO, so subtract 3 from tx and dish gain and this starts to be pretty useless for all but short, perfect shots.
From: Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 Here's our internally compiled list (xx shows which channels weren't available or aren't available post activation): Based on a radio with a 25dBi dish (Nanobridge M5-25 or PowerBeam M5-400) you will have the following channels and tx powers available: Channel Old dBm New dBm 5160 11 xx 5165 11 12 5170 11 16 5175 11 16 5180 11 16 5185 11 16 5190 11 16 5195 11 16 5200 11 16 5205 11 17 5210 11 17 5215 11 17 5220 11 17 5225 11 17 5230 11 17 5235 11 17 5240 11 17 5260 xx 0 5265 5 3 5270 5 3 5275 5 3 5280 5 3 5285 5 3 5290 5 3 5295 5 3 5300 5 3 5305 5 3 5310 5 3 5315 5 3 5320 5 3 5325 xx 3 5330 xx 3 5335 xx -4 5485 xx -4 5490 xx 2 5495 xx 2 5500 5 2 5505 5 2 5510 5 2 5515 5 2 5520 5 2 5525 5 2 5530 5 2 5535 5 2 5540 5 2 5545 5 2 5550 5 2 5555 5 2 5560 5 2 5565 5 2 5570 5 2 5575 5 2 5580 5 2 5585 xx 2 5590 xx 2 5595 xx 2 5600 xx 2 5605 xx 2 5610 xx 2 5615 xx 2 5620 xx 2 5625 xx 2 5630 xx 2 5635 xx 2 5640 xx 2 5645 xx 2 5650 xx 2 5655 xx 2 5660 5 2 5665 5 2 5670 5 2 5675 5 2 5680 5 2 5685 5 2 5690 5 2 5695 5 2 5700 5 2 5705 xx 2 5710 xx -1 5735 23 xx 5740 23 7 5745 23 16 5750 23 16 5755 23 16 5760 23 16 5765 23 16 5770 23 16 5775 23 16 5780 23 16 5785 23 16 5790 23 16 5795 23 16 5800 23 16 5805 23 16 5810 23 16 5815 23 16 5820 23 16 5825 23 16 5830 23 16 5838 23 7 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 17, 2015, at 10:14, John Woodfield <[email protected]> wrote: Thats all fine and great. The question is how far does it lower the TX power. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -----Original Message----- From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm To: "af" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 Yes, once you activate the revised UNII rules, it it will lower the EIRP in UNII-3, however just upgrading the firmware won't change anything (until you enter the key) and you can use the key again to get the higher Tx Power back (and disable UNII-1/2)... of course if you lose the link when the power drops, that won't help you... if a link is questionable, I would just try lowering the tx power using test mode to see what happens before you do anything. On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, John Woodfield <[email protected]> wrote: With the new unlock codes and firmware are they still killing the EIRP of the gear even in the UNII3 bands? I've been scared to load it on anything... John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -----Original Message----- From: "James Craig" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:29pm To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 Hi Guys, There are actually two sets of "DFS" unlocks. The older unlock is from a few years ago to unlock DFS on RM5/NanoBridge/NanoStation. Those keys will not unlock PowerBeam/NanoBeam or AC products. NanoBeam/PowerBeamM units will require 5.6.3 + unlock codes generated in the last few months (June 2015). AC products can be unlocked as well, but this is currently only available on 7.2/8.0 beta firmware. R5AC-PTP and PTMP models are limited to bands above 5470MHz due to airPrism filtering. The R5-AC-PRISM will have full U-NII band support. If you need new codes/stickers for PowerBeamM/NanoBeamM or AC products, you can request them here: https://www.ubnt.com/fcclabelrequest/ Please feel free to email me directly if you have any questions. On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: We have been using keys with the nanostations with no problem. I cannot get the powerbeams to work at all. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Ben Moore <[email protected]> wrote: Yes, they are...Please check with support team if they are not showing up for you as could be something to do with the unlock code - [email protected] I will also ask them to chime in here. Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: So are powerbeams not capable? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Ben Moore <[email protected]> wrote: Yes, datasheets are being updated (most are done, just not uploaded yet). On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: Well, right. that was the case up until airOS 5.6.3 was released... I expect they'll update the data sheets when the radios are shipping with the new firmware. On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:11 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: I was just stating what the data sheet says about the US version versus worldwide version. I know that we have been buying nanobeams And using them just fine we ordered powerbeams this last time and cannot do anything other than 5725-5850. <image1.PNG> Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: You most certainly can use the US radios in 5150-5250, and whoever said that only the world version supports it is wrong. You just need to upgrade the firmware to 5.6.3, and enter the unlock key - which you do need to request from UBNT. On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: Ben, what does “approvals are in” mean? I don’t give a rat’s ass whether you have approvals in. I want to know if I can order equipment for a customer install, upgrade to latest released firmware if necessary, and operate it in the 5150-5250 band. That’s all that matters to me. Anything else is your internal process to get to what I need, which is a radio I can buy from my distributor and send out with an installer to do a customer install off a Rocket M5 AP we installed 8 months ago. When I go to the grocery store to buy 2% milk, they don’t tell me the farmer has bought a cow, they either have 2% milk on the shelf or they don’t. Status reports on the feeding and milking of the cow don’t give me something to pour on my cereal. From: Ben Moore Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 Hi Guys - The approvals for both lower band and DFS are in. Same w it AC gear. Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: This is just incredible. They've been screwing around with this for about 8 months. Ubiquiti seems to be giving the middle finger to the US market. I am going to have to look at ripping out some APs and PTP links I put up back in April and replacing them with something else. I don't know how to explain to a customer that I can't order equipment for their service because my vendor has their head up their ass, that just reflects badly on me for using their equipment. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 Only the world version supports it. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: Does anybody know if the NBE-M5-19 and PBE-M5-300/400/620 allow 5150-5250 MHz with release firmware now? And what is the likelihood any product I bought from a distributor today would support this band out of the box without requesting a key from Ubiquiti? You'd think Ubiquiti would have this somewhere, but I can't find it.
